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Old 05-17-2021, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
I’m sorry that your upset that your theory about vaccine rates causing cases to drop to zero has been disproven by cases rinsing in another state with virtually the same vaccination rate.
Vaccines cannot prevent unvaccinated people from getting sick. No state has a high enough vaccination rate to achieve herd immunity.

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How many vaccinated people with symptoms have tested negative?
It does not matter when the issue is hospitalization.

 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You realize the criteria for making polio diagnosis CHANGED after the vaccine was rolled out.

The criteria made it next to impossible for any doctor to make a polio diagnosis.

Go look into it. It's true.

Similarly the way the CDC has said: Don't test anyone with COVID symptoms ... if they have been vaccinated.
Polio is diagnosed by testing for the virus.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Polio is diagnosed by testing for the virus.
Sigh. Tiresome.

After you look at the diagnostic criteria before and after the vaccine was rolled out you will have a clue. You have no foundation of knowledge to even begin this discussion.

There would never be a test ... because the exam criteria would not let it get that far.

So much ignorance it's ASTOUNDING. Just knee jerk opinions based on nothing. No facts. No evidence. Nothing.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Vaccines cannot prevent unvaccinated people from getting sick. No state has a high enough vaccination rate to achieve herd immunity.
I was posting in response to another poster who claimed Texas had zero cases due to the vaccine. CO proves that theory wrong.

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It does not matter when the issue is hospitalization.
From the start many of us have said that cases don’t matter, it’s deaths and hospitalizations we should worry about and we were constantly told that we were wrong. Suddenly it’s changed. Interesting.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
I was posting in response to another poster who claimed Texas had zero cases due to the vaccine. CO proves that theory wrong.

From the start many of us have said that cases don’t matter, it’s deaths and hospitalizations we should worry about and we were constantly told that we were wrong. Suddenly it’s changed. Interesting.
I do not believe anyone has claimed Texas has zero cases, which is obviously incorrect. Perhaps you could link to a specific post.

Yes, the availability of the vaccines has changed things. Deaths and hospitalizations are a priority now because they are almost all unvaccinated. So are new cases for that matter.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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I do not believe anyone has claimed Texas has zero cases, which is obviously incorrect. Perhaps you could link to a specific post.

Yes, the availability of the vaccines has changed things. Deaths and hospitalizations are a priority now because they are almost all unvaccinated. So are new cases for that matter.
Well, yes. Again, the CDC has stated: Don't test those who are vaccinated.

Are you not understanding that?
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Sigh. Tiresome.

After you look at the diagnostic criteria before and after the vaccine was rolled out you will have a clue. You have no foundation of knowledge to even begin this discussion.

There would never be a test ... because the exam criteria would not let it get that far.

So much ignorance it's ASTOUNDING. Just knee jerk opinions based on nothing. No facts. No evidence. Nothing.
Polio is diagnosed by testing for the virus.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...20to%20examine.

"A healthcare provider may diagnose polio by checking your stool or throat for poliovirus. He or she may also want to do a spinal tap (also called a lumbar puncture) to get a sample of your spinal fluid to examine."

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-po...iagnostic.html

"Virus isolation in culture is the most sensitive method to diagnose poliovirus infection. Poliovirus is most likely to be isolated from stool specimens. It may also be isolated from pharyngeal swabs. Isolation is less likely from blood or CSF."

Yes, ignorance is astounding.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Well, yes. Again, the CDC has stated: Don't test those who are vaccinated.

Are you not understanding that?
That is not what CDC has said. It says do not test vaccinated people with no symptoms and do not do screening tests, with exceptions. It does not say not to test those with symptoms.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/5097358001/

"The CDC still recommends people who show symptoms of COVID-19 should get tested, Also, vaccinated people without symptoms should get tested if they are in a prison or a homeless shelter. All health-care workers and residents of nursing homes with an active outbreak also must be routinely tested until no new cases are detected for two weeks.

The stricter testing recommendations for prisons and long-term care facilities, even if staffs are fully vaccinated, is necessary because they are higher-risk facilities, experts say."
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Polio is diagnosed by testing for the virus.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...20to%20examine.

"A healthcare provider may diagnose polio by checking your stool or throat for poliovirus. He or she may also want to do a spinal tap (also called a lumbar puncture) to get a sample of your spinal fluid to examine."

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-po...iagnostic.html

"Virus isolation in culture is the most sensitive method to diagnose poliovirus infection. Poliovirus is most likely to be isolated from stool specimens. It may also be isolated from pharyngeal swabs. Isolation is less likely from blood or CSF."

Yes, ignorance is astounding.
What was the criteria in 1940? 1945? 1950? 1955? 1960? 1965? Do you have a historical perspective on the trajectory of the illness and the overall history of the vaccination process?

No. You don't. You have no idea what you are talking about because you haven't done the research. Do you even know WHEN the polio vaccine was rolled out?

Google-copy-paste and keyboard vomiting is not research or understanding. Flailing around like a know-it-all, sinking in the quicksand because there is no knowledge to hold on to.
 
Old 05-17-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
I do not believe anyone has claimed Texas has zero cases, which is obviously incorrect. Perhaps you could link to a specific post.

Yes, the availability of the vaccines has changed things. Deaths and hospitalizations are a priority now because they are almost all unvaccinated. So are new cases for that matter.
Sorry, my memory was off. This is what they attributed to a 40% vaccination rate.
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
Texas has just reported:

▪️0 Covid related deaths

▪️fewest Covid cases in over 13 months

▪️lowest 7-day Covid new cases rate

▪️lowest Covid hospitalisations in 11 months

Population of Texas- 29 million.

Where are the naysayers now that said we would not reach containment to the levels of Israel?
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