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I will give you the best evidence so far. One that is based on a double-blind* RCT, considered the gold-standard in evidence based medicine. And this study was done by Pfizer herself.
In the Pfizer study, PR and published in the NEJM, there were ultimately 34 deaths. But the figure to focus on is deaths from CVD. There was 9 in the vaccinated cohort, and 5 in the unvaccinated cohort. This is almost 2:1, in a double-blind RCT where cohorts are matched for age, health, gender, etc. This is a real signal of danger. And normally would send off alarm bells, and Pfizer would probably need to re-do the study - this time taking biomarkers of people pre and post vaccination.
*We now from the Ventavia whistleblower that at least a subset of Pfizer's double-blind RCT done in Texas wasn't double-blind at all. But a story for another day.
Can you share that link? I have a statistics background and I’m very interested in the design.
Are you a military or airline pilot? Your post is not only incorrect, but actually made my spouse (who IS a pilot), and our two neighbors (also pilots) crack up.
No, I'm not. So once again I ask are deaths of pilots up considerably now compared with 2019 or not. Or is it impossible to find the data to determine that because airlines don't release such data?
Also is it a total myth that airline pilots die sooner than people in other professions?
Are people not holding protests over the covid vaccines because so few people know of anybody who died from them?
Your post didn't answer didn't answer any of the above. Maybe somebody else on here knows.
So many people never read the Pfizer study apparently.
Good stuff, and thank you for posting. You have to be careful about the death diagnoses. For instance 'cardiac arrest' and 'cardio-respiratory arrest' are common endpoints of many terminal diseases and events aside from being specifically and solely a cardiac death. Many times the picture changes based on how the attending doc fills out the death cert. There is one case of the diagnosis 'death' on the placebo side! There were two actual 'myocardial infarctions' in the placebo group vs 0 in the vaccinated.
Of course we have all been looking for significant and dangerous trends. But specific cardiac deaths from the vaccines remains rare, as opposed to cardiac deaths from the actual Covid 19 disease.
Good stuff, and thank you for posting. You have to be careful about the death diagnoses. For instance 'cardiac arrest' and 'cardio-respiratory arrest' are common endpoints of many terminal diseases and events aside from being specifically and solely a cardiac death. Many times the picture changes based on how the attending doc fills out the death cert. There is one case of the diagnosis 'death' on the placebo side! There were two actual 'myocardial infarctions' in the placebo group vs 0 in the vaccinated.
Of course we have all been looking for significant and dangerous trends. But specific cardiac deaths from the vaccines remains rare, as opposed to cardiac deaths from the actual Covid 19 disease.
I simply tallied them into one bucket, CVD. It's broken up in that table in such a way, there will be no signal. But if you consider causes from CVD, you get 9 in the vaccinated vs 5 in the unvaccinated. I think that's somewhat alarming. This is all-cause CVD. I'm not suggesting it's from COVID, the vaccines, or some other condition. What I'd expect is there to be no signal of increased CVD in the vaccinated arm. It should be the same or even less (as it's protecting you from COVID supposedly) but indeed it's almost 2x as large. Granted, numbers are small, so is the time frame.
In a perfect world, Pfizer would then redo their study, this time taking biomarkers right before, then after vaccination. Then these biomarkers would be used in statistical analysis as deaths are rare to begin with, it's quite common unless the study is large or long enough for a statistical signal considered relevant (p < 0.05) to never be obtained.
This is something i noticed btw, i never seen anyone else point this out. Perhaps because causes of death are broken into such tiny buckets, no one saw a signal. I simply grouped them into one related bucket: CVD. For the other causes, like 'death' it's quite strange and probably Pfizer didn't properly follow up to get a cause of death. This is an example of lazy science, but not critical to the conclusion.
Edit: I realized just now you're making the same point as Floorist below (read your post wrong the first go). This is something to consider, but for simplicity we should assume they're cardiac related.
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The cause of the cardiac arrest is most often cardiac (50%-60%), followed by respiratory insufficiency (15%-40%). Efforts to prevent in-hospital cardiac arrest require both a system for identifying deteriorating patients and an appropriate interventional response (eg, rapid response teams).
Good stuff, and thank you for posting. You have to be careful about the death diagnoses. For instance 'cardiac arrest' and 'cardio-respiratory arrest' are common endpoints of many terminal diseases and events aside from being specifically and solely a cardiac death. Many times the picture changes based on how the attending doc fills out the death cert. There is one case of the diagnosis 'death' on the placebo side! There were two actual 'myocardial infarctions' in the placebo group vs 0 in the vaccinated.
Of course we have all been looking for significant and dangerous trends. But specific cardiac deaths from the vaccines remains rare, as opposed to cardiac deaths from the actual Covid 19 disease.
I had a doctor tell me that if they are not sure of the exact cause of death, they write cardiac arrest because your heart stops when you die.
My biggest gripe with the vaccine is the CDC not giving a list of the side effects. Let people make an informed decision on the vaccine.
I suffered for two months because my doctor had not heard of the side effect that I got, even though red blood cell issues are one of the most common side effects. There have been thousands of red blood cell issues from the vaccine.
The CDC supposedly works for the people, why should they be allowed to withhold important information?
My biggest gripe with the vaccine is the CDC not giving a list of the side effects. Let people make an informed decision on the vaccine.
I suffered for two months because my doctor had not heard of the side effect that I got, even though red blood cell issues are one of the most common side effects. There have been thousands of red blood cell issues from the vaccine.
The CDC supposedly works for the people, why should they be allowed to withhold important information?
My biggest gripe is that, despite royally screwing up this pandemic and causing harm to millions of people overreaching their statutory mandate, the CDC continues to exist.
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