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Old 12-21-2020, 03:03 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/
Not that dangerous given the exploits of other Presidents, and Trump also doesn't drink alcohol.

That time a drunk Richard Nixon tried to nuke North Korea - Business Insider

 
Old 12-21-2020, 03:57 AM
 
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= Mexico will pay for the wall. Total BS Trumpers lies.
Please don't bring up Trump promise that Mexico would pay for the wall.

Mexico pay for the wall? Fake News.

Where is the proof that Trump ever stated that Mexico would pay for the wall.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Trump is so dangerous that he will continue living rent free in the heads of liberals even after he leaves office.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/
Trump is extremely dangerous to the establishment. Why do you think they were screaming for impeachment before he even took office back in 2017 ???
 
Old 12-21-2020, 06:29 AM
 
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Trump is so dangerous that he will continue living rent free in the heads of liberals even after he leaves office.
Yes, he is their obsession.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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He's dangerous for the Left and that is good enough for me.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NH
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The media is what is dangerous.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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IDK. Does he still use his own personal unsecured phone? Can it be hacked?
 
Old 12-21-2020, 08:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/
I didn't read that. The danger was his order to send in military troops to quell the protests in Oregon. He was playing right into the color revolution playbook which he knows all too well. Any shooting of protestors, police, or the federal troops could've spread the unrest beyond those groups to the general public on both sides of the political divide.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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His bark was bigger than his bite, the people he emboldened is a bigger problem than he is.

However, his general demeanor and lack of clear communication skills were far below what American's should expect from their President IMO.
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