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Old 12-20-2020, 08:07 PM
 
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It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/

 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:26 PM
 
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Trump is the best president this country has had in generations. All of your posted article is BS...
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:33 PM
 
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Trump is the best president this country has had in generations. All of your posted article is BS...
Frankly, Trump is merely death throes for this dying republic.

Yes, he’s great but this republic is still done.
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/
One tiny tiny minute question: how could such a authoritarian figure lose an election? Last time a dictator lost an election... wait, that never happened.
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Just how dangerous was Trump?
The question should be, how dangerous IS the New York Times?

The NYT has yet again pushed a phony story that they had to retract. They've been running phony stories for decades, but they went into hyperdrive with Trump as president. I am all for a free press, but there have to be limits. The NYT has been crying "FIRE" in a crowded theater for four years. Time to put down the Gray Lady for the rabid, foaming at the mouth, dog she is.
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:44 PM
 
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Leftists used to be amusing, but now they just make me puke.
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:50 PM
 
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Trump is the best president this country has had in generations.
= Mexico will pay for the wall. Total BS Trumpers lies.
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
It's nice that Michelle Goldberg puts it in the past tense. He'll always be a danger to some, but now at least less of a danger to all. He'll be a danger with his influence, but at least he won't be the same force to attack and punish and frighten people to the same degree.


Just how dangerous was Trump?
The American left’s most famous figures — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky — saw Trump as an authoritarian who could, if reelected, destroy American democracy for good. But another strain of left opinion viewed Trump’s fascistic gestures as almost purely performative, and believed his clumsiness in marshaling state power made him less dangerous than, say, George W. Bush.
But Trump’s ability to envelop his followers in a cocoon of lies is unparalleled. The Bush administration deceived the country to go to war in Iraq. It did not insist, after the invasion, that weapons of mass destruction had been found when they obviously were not. That’s why the country was able to reach a consensus that the war was a disaster.
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/comme...goldberg-just/
Apparently the left's "most famous figures" don't know the definition of "authoritarian".

The only thing Michelle Goldberg accurately describes would be Obama's 8 years in office:

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In “The Nature of Fascism,” Roger Griffin described fascism’s “mobilizing vision” as “the national community rising phoenix-like after a period of encroaching decadence which all but destroyed it.” Translate this into the American vernacular and it sounds a lot like MAGA.
Replace "MAGA" with the the left's messiah's stupid mobilizing vision of "Hope and Change". Fits 100%

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Old 12-20-2020, 09:56 PM
 
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= Mexico will pay for the wall. Total BS Trumpers lies.
This thread isn't about the wall and how Mexico paid for it.

Did you get lost?
 
Old 12-20-2020, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Just how dangerous was Trump? What are you talking waz??? this nut job is still trying to make a scene in January.
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