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Old 12-25-2020, 06:10 AM
 
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Now they're saying that having had Covid grants you 8 months of immunity, which is odd since its been 8 months since the pandemic really started. So they can't bring themselves to say AT LEAST 8 months yet, but they are slowly admitting herd immunity is real and immunity seems to be very long lasting. Which makes getting a vaccine less necessary and... more risky.
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Old 12-25-2020, 06:12 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Now they're saying that having had Covid grants you 8 months of immunity, which is odd since its been 8 months since the pandemic really started. So they can't bring themselves to say AT LEAST 8 months yet, but they are slowly admitting herd immunity is real and immunity seems to be very long lasting. Which makes getting a vaccine less necessary and... more risky.
They want to keep us in lockdown forever. Ain't going to happen!
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:57 AM
 
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Now they're saying that having had Covid grants you 8 months of immunity, which is odd since its been 8 months since the pandemic really started. So they can't bring themselves to say AT LEAST 8 months yet, but they are slowly admitting herd immunity is real and immunity seems to be very long lasting. Which makes getting a vaccine less necessary and... more risky.
For those relatively young and healthy, and not in close contact with seniors and others with serious medical problems who have not yet been infected and recovered.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Now they're saying that having had Covid grants you 8 months of immunity, which is odd since its been 8 months since the pandemic really started. So they can't bring themselves to say AT LEAST 8 months yet, but they are slowly admitting herd immunity is real and immunity seems to be very long lasting. Which makes getting a vaccine less necessary and... more risky.
Eight months is not very long. We do not know yet how long immunity will last. We will not achieve true herd immunity without a vaccine. Too many will die or become disabled.

What do you perceive the risks of the vaccines to be?
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Old 12-26-2020, 07:46 AM
 
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they are slowly admitting herd immunity is real


Not sure what that means - but - if you're implying that we can now just "wait it out" until x % are infected, so no vaccine is needed, then you are missing the point: our health care system is overwhelmed in some areas right now.


We cannot just wait it out any longer - if we have a way to accelerate "the herd" then we must use it - and that way is with a vaccine.


The most optimistic (if you want to call it that) estimate right now is that something less than 20% of the USA was already infected. Probably about 15%. Nowhere near what is required. Your method would eventually work. Maybe 4 more years or so. Or - with the vaccine, a bit of luck, and some common sense, we can probably be out of this by spring. Not 100% entirely free of misery, no, but it will be obvious in 8-12 weeks (at this rate) that the vaccine is doing something.
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Old 12-26-2020, 11:13 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Eight months is not very long. We do not know yet how long immunity will last. We will not achieve true herd immunity without a vaccine. Too many will die or become disabled.

What do you perceive the risks of the vaccines to be?
I have no issue with the vaccine, I do have an issue with insisting on those who have already had Covid get the vaccine anyway. I have a larger issue with insisting on vaccinating those Covid veterans when people who haven’t had it and have something going on that puts them at greater risk are still waiting in line to get the vaccine. That smacks of bad policy.
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Old 12-26-2020, 11:37 AM
 
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I have no issue with the vaccine, I do have an issue with insisting on those who have already had Covid get the vaccine anyway. I have a larger issue with insisting on vaccinating those Covid veterans when people who haven’t had it and have something going on that puts them at greater risk are still waiting in line to get the vaccine. That smacks of bad policy.
More than likely we will get data to support not pushing to vaccinate those who have had proven infection and recovered.
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Old 12-26-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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Covid-19 is a novel virus.

There is no certainty about the durability of immunity to reinfection. Might be months or years or lifetime.

Reportedly there are at least 12 strains of Covid because viruses mutate. There is no certainty immunity from one strain will provide indefinite immunity from all strains.

No one knows the durability of the vaccine. Might be months or year or a lifetime.

Covid-19 is a novel virus.
If you can get re-infected by Covid every 6 months, then why would a vaccine provide any more than 6 months protection? I am using 6 months as an example of a duration.
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Old 12-26-2020, 11:44 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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More than likely we will get data to support not pushing to vaccinate those who have had proven infection and recovered.
But don't they already have it showing that recovered people have immunity 8 months later ?
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Old 12-26-2020, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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If you can get re-infected by Covid every 6 months, then why would a vaccine provide any more than 6 months protection? I am using 6 months as an example of a duration.
They don't know how long protection lasts. So far they've been able to verify 8 months if you had it and recovered.

New virus, new vaccine...they just don't know.
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