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Doesnt Chicago have the strictest gun regulations in the nation. To the libs out there. I thought according to you that strict gun laws would curb gun violence. So why isn’t it working in Chicago?
While guns cannot be legally sold in the city, easy enough to legally buy in the suburbs and adjoining states. What is with the obsession with Chicago? St Louis, Baltimore and Detroit consistently make the top 50 in the world’s most deadliest cities. What do these global cities have in common? A legacy gang culture.
On a per capita basis, Chicago does not clear top ten in the US.
Guns have been trafficked by organized crime and gangs for more than 100 years. Most of the homicides occur in distinct communities. Most of the city does not experience gun violence like the most violent areas.
I am fascinated with how the public often blames a mayor for the number of shooting/ homicides in any given city, populated by some people who settle beefs with murder. Some believe too much policing is the root cause of gun violence while others call for less policing.
Nothing short of one on one, 24/7 policing will mitigate shootings. There can be a squad at one end of a given block that does not deter gun violence at the other end of the block.
In 2019, pre Covid, Chicago and Orlando were tied for second place for trade shows and conventions. Chicago had 55 million overnight visitors. None were gunned down.
Rudy had made $ tens of millions on the speaker’s circuit boasting how he brought violent crime down in NYC. Rudy fails to mention violent crime declined in all cities at the same time, regardless of strategy, if any , used by a city.
Counties and states, not cities, are responsible for sentencing and parole.
"Many states that have tight gun laws are surrounded by states that do not have strict gun laws. As a result, guns are often brought in from neighboring states".
Illinois's neighbors are Wisconsin and Indiana, with some of the laxest gun laws.
"In 2016, St. Louis had the highest rate of non-fatal shootings with 660 per 100,000 people. Chicago, in contrast, had just 89 per 100,000 people. New Orleans had the highest rate of homicides in 2016, with 47 per 100,000 people. Chicago, in contrast had 16 per 100,000."
Good question... Whatever happened to Black Lives Matter? They very obviously don't matter when it comes to Black on Black homicides.
Kill away, homies. It's all good. /sarcasm
Gun homicides in Chicago substantially predate BLM which focuses on murders executed by LE, not the gang next door.
In the most dangerous neighborhoods, it is not uncommon for the only males in a child’s life to be convicted felons and affiliated with a gang. You have small Arnie’s of 7-8 year olds on bikes serving as lookouts for open ait drug markets. They are groomed for gang life and many don’t expect to reach adulthood.
Gangs in the US predate the US. Jewish and Irish then Italian and then Asian immigrant gangs had huge presences in cities. It’s a curious thing that the activities of the mob have been romanticized in literature and cinema. I mean, who does not enjoy a good whacking or the occasional horse head in the bed?
Very different than today’s gangs, former gangs were deep into the pockets of politicians and unions.
Today’s gangs are too fragmented to have much power beyond their block or neighborhood.
Richt? Trump talking point in his 2016 campaign is he could fix it.
(Yes I know it's not his responsibility -- but he's the one who took ownership of the problem by suggesting he had solutions.....).
Yes, he did offer but the little lawn gnome mayor rejected his offer. And when he sent Federal enforcement, the liberal prosecutors didn't do their job. ALL of chicago's problems are because of the democrat leadership for the last many decades.
Gun control is excellent police non interference is superb with the exception of mayor light foot home
Heavy armed police presence
Signed a Chicago native
Gun homicides in Chicago substantially predate BLM which focuses on murders executed by LE, not the gang next door.
In other words, BLM never really cared about black lives. It was just a campaign slogan which, like most campaign slogans, was a lie. It was really about demonizing and destroying most police based on the actions of a very few.
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I mean, who does not enjoy a good whacking or the occasional horse head in the bed?
Doesnt Chicago have the strictest gun regulations in the nation. To the libs out there. I thought according to you that strict gun laws would curb gun violence. So why isn’t it working in Chicago?
The gun laws are irrelevant. Chicago's violence problem is rooted in systemic poverty and historic segregation. Every major U.S. city has a violence problem. Heck, Dallas allows guns everywhere and it had 251 homicides in 2020 even though it's less than half the population of Chicago.
I grew up in rural Arizona where everyone owned guns, and I mean everyone. But it was a safe community and homicides were very, very rare. Different economic, cultural and social conditions have a much larger impact on public safety than whether or not people own guns.
People will always seek safety, or even the illusion of safety. For many people, the idea of banning guns gives them a sense of control over the threat of violence, even though it would have no real impact in the end. They're afraid and guns are scary to them.
To be honest, I think we'd all be better off if we stopped focusing on the instruments of violence and started focusing on the roots of the problem.
Actually, California does: https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...-laws-by-state
One problem is this:
"Many states that have tight gun laws are surrounded by states that do not have strict gun laws. As a result, guns are often brought in from neighboring states".
Illinois's neighbors are Wisconsin and Indiana, with some of the laxest gun laws.
Also read: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-gun-violence/
"In 2016, St. Louis had the highest rate of non-fatal shootings with 660 per 100,000 people. Chicago, in contrast, had just 89 per 100,000 people. New Orleans had the highest rate of homicides in 2016, with 47 per 100,000 people. Chicago, in contrast had 16 per 100,000."
My neighbor, Dallas, broke records in 2020: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...3-019c85d5c502
My Fort Worth didn't fare any better: https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/14...olice/2517032/
"Fort Worth has recorded 112 homicides in 2020, the most in 25 years. The total through the last day of 2019 was 71."
Yet, every firearms dealer in Wisconsin and Indiana follow the Federal laws. Every SINGLE One. There is not much that can be done about straw purchases. Every one was a legal purchase with a back ground check.
Does IN and WI have the same level of gun violence? Black on black murder?
Depends on where in Indiana and Wisconsin.
Gary, Indiana has a higher homicide rate than Chicago.
The largest city in Indiana is Indianapolis, population about 592,000.
The largest city in Wisconsin is Milwaukee with a population of about. 368,000.
In contrast, Chicago has a population of about 2.7 million and a metro population of 9.5 million.
Chicago’s location has been a regional hub of alcohol, firearm and drug trafficking for more than 100 years.
Has not mattered who was mayor or governor or party in control.
There is a tendency for people to blame politicians for the behaviors of the people. Many of the blame throwers protect the shooters and do so out of family loyalty or fear.
No amount of policing will solve this.
The current mayor rejects demands to defund the police. The current mayor however, has a long history of focusing on police misconduct which puts her at odds with the fraternal order of police.
The county and state, not the city prosecute criminals and impose minimum sentencing and parole.
What precludes the state from outsourcing imprisonment of violent criminals to cheaper states or dare I say, countries?
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They very obviously don't matter when it comes to Black on Black homicides. 