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The people using the term "insurrection" cannot have it both ways.
Donald Trump painted Ted Cruz's wife as Alice The Goon in 2016. Ted Cruz was among the chief propagators of Donald Trump's "Heads I Win,Tails You Lose" shenanigans in 2020. Those who stormed the U.S. Capitol are as goofy as Ted Cruz.
Actually all theories of voter fraud has been debunked. The affidavits you reference, some were found to be lying or confused. Melissa Carone and Russel Ramsland in particular.
The video allegedly showing video fraud was doctored by Giuliani.
Election officials and private investigators have looked into fraud and found nothing.
Trump supporters have been heavily indoctrinated and radicalized in the same way ISIS was which caused them to attack the us capitol.
If only there was a credible non-leftist media outlet to back this up.
This country is screwed. Hope you are learning to speak Chinese.
The BLM people were not trying to overthrow congress.
BLM and CHAZ were, in effect, holding entire regions hostage via massive acts of violence, including murders as well as property destruction, for extended periods of time. Our government erred in not treating them as enemy combatants, and responding with immense force to take back the land, by all means necessary, the minute the 1st act of violence began.
The riots in the spring and summer were awful & wre condemned as not useful means of protest.
It wasn't right.
But this whataboutism is pathetically sick.
Wednesday was awful --- not acceptable. end of story.
Biden himself is on record condemning the violence, but that isn't enough for them. In fact, he could condemn it every day and they would still believe he didn't. Just like they will never believe Trump didn't win the 2020 election and they will never believe Obama was born in the USA.
The people using the term "insurrection" cannot have it both ways.
Here is my take on this. Last year in 2020, we had the summer of hell. Now winter just started along with a new year and hoping for new things. The new year and new season did not go as planned and now we are living in an winter of hell. We have a lot anger on both of fringe side of things. Much of this is also thanked for those who voted for politicians that hollowed out the economy.
BLM protests that resulted from George Floyd destroyed billons and killed more than dozen people including an innocent black girl killed by a BLM protester in which BLM sheltered. BLM and Antifa also burned down police precincts and even raided court houses and laid siege to a federal court house too. The election of Joe Biden ended the protests.
As someone who likes Trump but who is also independent. I realize that Trump lost fair and square. Yes their is election fraud, but those things are very minor, and most election results are fair. Trump you lost fair and square. Maybe if you showed better leadership in hour of crisis during the pandemic. You would have been granted a 2nd chance, (btw I did not vote Biden).
The media, social media and academia are all institutions that are controlled by the left. THe left especially the woke left can pump out any sort of topic false leaning or any narrative and it becomes believable.
The MAGA riot at the Capitol happened for many reasons. But guess what, you dont make Trump fans over night, and not in 4 years. These men have been boiling in anger for decades due to failed economic policies pushed by GOP and Dems which hollowed out there smooth world economy. This resulted in many either supporting Bernie Sanders, or Donald J Trump.
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Biden himself is on record condemning the violence, but that isn't enough for them. In fact, he could condemn it every day and they would still believe he didn't. Just like they will never believe Trump didn't win the 2020 election and they will never believe Obama was born in the USA.
Just like when Trump condemned violence, it wasn't enough for y'all. Trump even named names of groups, and it wasn't good enough for y'all and you kept on asking him to do it over and over. Meanwhile, Biden* is on record for refusing to name groups like blm antifa but has no trouble naming the proud boys, or "poor boys". So, Biden's* condemning violence shtick is aimed at only the proud boys and no other.
an election that was conducted legally and won fairly
(patiently)
There goes that long-debunked lie again. The liberals evidently just can't get enough of it. Particularly since their entire agenda hangs on it, and they shudder with horror at the idea of their election fraud being found out and exposed.
Of course, there is a ton of evidence showing their corruption, lawbreaking, vote theft etc. It would take thousands of pages to list it all. Here are just a few examples:
Democrats keep repeating "There's no evidence of election fraud!" Oh, really? How many examples would you like?
There are literally thousand of examples. Sworn testimony from eyewitnesses, affidavits sworn under penalty of perjury, videos, etc. etc.
This OP could be hundreds of pages long. Here are just a few examples. You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...0Authority.pdf
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11. In Michigan, a preliminary report, conducted by Russell James Ramsland, Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (“ASOG”), summarizing the results of ASOG’s court-ordered forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in Antrim County, Michigan, was released on December 14, 2020. A copy of this report is attached hereto as Exhibit A. The report delivers the following preliminary conclusion:
We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
Exh. A, ¶ B(2), p. 1. This Interim Report finds that the Dominion software was updated between the November 3, 2020 election and the subsequent recounts and that the updated software inexplicably produced wildly different results from the election day version. Id. at ¶ B(3), p. 2.
....to provide just one example among hundreds.
As usual, liberals have claimed a "hand recount" of paper ballots (which were printed out after voting by the same voting machines under investigation, not by the voters) somehow cleared the Dominion voting machines.
* Does that mean that it is no longer true that records and logs are missing?
* Does it mean that the machines no longer put out wildly differing counts before and after a firmware upgrade?
* Does it mean that logs produced during the forensic analysis no longer showed that a section of code that deliberately weighed Biden votes differently from Trump votes was active and running during the election and subsequent counting?
They seem to be claiming that these things are somehow "no longer true". No explanation for this has been given.
At State Farm Arena in Atlanta, GA on the day of the election, Surveillance video showed workers counting ballots with Republican and Democrat observers present.
At approx. 11:00PM, a woman with long blonde hair is seen talking to a number of the workers and observers. Shortly afterward, all the observers and most of the workers are seen turning and heading for the exit, except for four workers who stayed. Witnesses have described in sworn statements that the woman with long blonde hair had told everyone that everyone was quitting for the night and would resume ballot-counting etc. the following morning.
But the GA Secretary of State’s office later said that no one had told them they were quitting for the night, and that everyone should leave.
"We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended," the secretary of state's office said. "While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not." https://www.thecentersquare.com/geor...598f7c336.html
The Secretary of State’s representative making this statement was not sworn to tell the truth, unlike witnesses who WERE sworn and made statements saying they WERE told that everybody was to leave.
Atlanta election officials have since said that the videos show “normal ballot procedures”, as though counting ballots after sending the observers out of the room, in flat violation of Georgia law, was somehow “normal”.
Rudy Giuliani gave a press conference on Nov. 19, 2020 in which he described various direct evidence of fraud. 60 different people swore out affidavits, under penalty of perjury, that they had volunteered to come to the ballot-counting rooms to observe the counting and tabulating of ballots; and that they had been physically prevented from doing so, in violation of state laws.
Giuliani also mentioned a woman in Michigan named Jessie Jacob whose job was to collect mail-in ballots, who signed a similar affidavit (again under penalty of perjury) that her supervisor had ordered her and the other employees to deliberately falsify the date on the mail-in ballots, to reflect an earlier date than the actual date they were mailed. Again in flat violation of Michigan state election law.
See the above video at 16:20 to hear about it.
Giuliani has dozens of other sworn affidavits from other employees, volunteers etc. describing illegal behavior with ballots. Being sworn before an office of the court, under threat of the penalty for perjury, these are all direct evidence of violations of election law and ballot fraud. Giuliani and the rest of Trump’s legal team are collecting more and more such evidence as time goes on.
So much for endless repetitions of "There isn't any evidence". You Democrats, how many such examples would it take to convince you? (A rhetorical questions, they would NEVER be convinced).
Leftists who keep insisting there is “no evidence of fraud or election lawbreaking”, are either astoundingly ignorant of the truth, or are aware of the truth and are lying to you, trying to fool you into believing there is none.
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