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Well we don't consider "semites" to be a race, do we? And the bible doesn't either.
Who "we"?
Hitler for example was referring to Jews as a "race of people," ( although the word "race" was used by him in a slightly different sense.)
However in order to get you more acquainted with idea that the whole racial theory indeed goes back to the Bible - here it is.
"The early modern equation of the biblical Semites, Hamites and Japhetites with "racial" phenotypes was coined at the Göttingen School of History in the late 18th century – in parallel with other, more secular terminologies for race, such as Blumenbach's fivefold racial scheme.
The following traditional and modern sources attempt to equate the biblical Table of Nations with contemporary racial (cosmetic phenotypal) and/or national (ethnolinguistic cultural) identities:
The 1st-century Jewish-Roman historian Josephus, in Antiquities of the Jews Book 1, chapter 6, was the first known author who assigned known ethnicities to some of the names listed in Genesis chapter 10. His assignments became the basis for most later authors, and were as follows.."
If we read the above excerpt from Mein Kampf, note the bolded, we can see that this ideology is alive and well in the United States and what happened at the Capitol is tied into it.
Bernie Sanders, Jewish, says he's a Democratic Socialist. Many at the Capitol protest say that George Soros, Jewish, is funding left wing movements to take their freedoms away. Hitler mentions also the press being controlled by Jews.
Here's an unidentified man at the December 12th protest of Joe Biden victory. He's wearing a yellow on black T-shirt with a particular type of eagle on it from an Italian fascist party. At top is added "6MWE"
meaning "six million wasn't enough". At the bottom has been added a confederate cross.
Behind him another man in a black T-Shirt with yellow lettering. He's looking at a Black Lives Matter banner in the background at the left. The shirt says Proud Boys on it. The chairman of the Proud Boys was arrested for taking down a Black Lives Matter banner from a church and burning it at this December 12th protest.
So we can see the ideology very much alive and well. And even if Biden is inaugurated on the 20th without incident it is likely many groups will be enraged by it and return on another day when guard is down and take some sort of action. The ideology is tied into QAnon and Militias who think the "Deep State"
has taken over the government and is a threat to their gun rights and other freedoms.
The far left has their own violent potential but we are talking about Hitler's influence in this thread.
The militias, many are ex-military have more weapons and are professionally trained as compared to rag tag underground groups like Antifa. The militias have licensed automatic rifles and can brandish them in large groups where laws allow. They have a lot more firepower and many have been convinced to think the U.S. election was stolen by fraud. They will consider the Biden presidency as a major setback and a threat to them
Democrats have been using those two guys with their T shirts as proof that Trump is the leader of a neo-Nazi movement.
But you forget to show all those other guys who were NOT wearing those T shirts.
Trump's daughter is Jewish. Trump is a New York liberal, who decided to run as a Republican, maybe because Republicans are more friendly to business. Trump did NOT run on Jew hatred or racism.
It's all a Democratic myth, spun by CNN and the NYT.
Basically. They were the party of FDR through much of the 1950s. They rejected radicals like Emmanuel Cellar who were obsessed with globalizing immigration (He and his faction got their way by 1965). If I recall right Democrats went against even Pres. Truman on immigration and globalization.
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I've re-read Hitler's views/description here, and they are definitely VERY skewed.
It looks like his brain ( or rather his inflamed imagination) creates a very specific picture, tying Jews exclusively to something "left.")
In reality, if you look at the bigger, more objective picture across the countries, you will find Jews on both sides of the divide - you'll find them among the Communists and major money-makers/ bankers alike.
Jews have been big into communism and leftism. It's changing now, as the left has turned against Israel. Religious Jews have tended to become Republican because of that. But we were mostly Democrats before, including me. Probably because Jews were so oppressed when the first generation arrived here, so they cared about civil rights.
Democrats have been using those two guys with their T shirts as proof that Trump is the leader of a neo-Nazi movement.
But you forget to show all those other guys who were NOT wearing those T shirts.
Trump's daughter is Jewish. Trump is a New York liberal, who decided to run as a Republican, maybe because Republicans are more friendly to business. Trump did NOT run on Jew hatred or racism.
It's all a Democratic myth, spun by CNN and the NYT.
Trump seems to attract a certain element , Patriot groups of hooligans, far right Militias, QAnon
but you're right he does not espouse overt antisemitism
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Originally Posted by Good4Nothin
Trump is a New York liberal
what are some of the things that makes him a New York liberal?
The Nazis are liars, we all are. But is there anything to gain by lying about the holocaust? Wasn't the creation of Israel in large part because of the holocaust? Isn't the holocaust the reason we give them a pass as a theocratic, ethnonationalist state that continues to steal land from Palestinians?
Off topic but I can't ignore this. The Palestinians NEVER owned that land. Before Israel, the Palestinians were serfs on land owned by Arabs. They were poor and oppressed, and did not have a nation.
The Israelis BOUGHT the land from the Arab landowners.
The left has gone bat**** with calling Israel a colonial power that practices apartheid. Israel did everything it could, from the beginning, to work out fair compromises with the Palestinians. The problem is that most Arabs have hated all Jews, for centuries.
Israel being there would have helped them greatly, but their HATRED of Jews is so intense, and their resentment is everlasting.
Skin color has nothing to do with ethnicity and culture, it's about genetic grouping and distance between cultures. For example American Indians were the same race and "skin color" naturally divided into 100s of independent tribal nations, they got along or not to varying degrees and certainly clashed with European settlers.
I never said skin color had anything to do with ethnicity and culture.
First of all, no one says Hitler is an angel here. Second, don't think Hilter invaded china.
We discuss why in the western everything is Hitler all the time? like Trump is Hilter (what the fxxk???), no love for mao, Stalin ... .
Also, we need to study how he managed to get his way. IF not, I can point to you and said you are Hitler too.
Anyone can point to anyone and say they are Hitler. That's the problem.
Immigration doesn't have to be allowed at all. Many countries don't really allow immigration and naturalization or at least they have severe restrictions. It's completely optional the number and the origin of immigration.
The USA has a tradition of allowing immigration, since we are a nation of immigrants (except the Indians, yeah I know). So the feeling is we should continue accepting immigrants. But too much of the wrong kind of immigration could damage a society.
The illegal immigration from the southern border was about cheap labor. Where I live, that cheap labor is still everywhere. Any job that doesn't require English.
When I say American values, I'm talking about supporting concepts of free speech, free conscience, self responsibility, limited government. I don't think personally attacking people and not their ideas is American. Basically the total opposite of the values democrats espouse.
Those are not American values. I don't hear any Democrats talking about free speech, self responsibility or limited government. Just the opposite.
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