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Old 01-15-2021, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/14/a...nt-incitement/
Nice, point by point dissection of why Pelosi's impeachment show was a farce.

"...One, impeachment was never intended by the founders to become a serial effort to weaken a first-term president. But this latest try will mark the third failed attempt of Democrats in Congress to remove Trump before his allotted tenure....


Two, the country is wracked by a pandemic, recession, a summer of Black Lives Matter and Antifa looting, arson, and violence, and the recent rogue group of Trump supporters storming the Capitol. Washington, D.C. is now militarized in a way not seen since the Civil War. Over 20,000 troops patrol the streets.

Thousands are dying from COVID-19. Politics and incompetence at the state level slow down the widespread vaccination of the vulnerable....


Three, the rushed third impeachment attempt was even sloppier than the first two. There was neither an appointment of a special counsel nor a formal case presented for illegal or improper presidential behavior. Trump’s advocates had no time to present a legal or political refutation of “incitement.”

There was no real debate, just for-show stump speeches in a rushed spasm of hatred—a circus entirely contrary to the Founders’ notion of a solemn and rare procedure....


Four, only those without the prior sin of revving up partisans should cast the first stone.

Many of the supporters of this current impeachment would themselves be impeached under their own vague definitions of “incitement” they now apply to Trump.

In March, then-Senate Minority leader Charles Schumer (R-N.Y.) riled up an angry crowd of pro-abortion protestors at the very doors of the Supreme Court—while it was in session.

To a wild crowd, he threatened individual Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch by name: “You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you . . .....""

<article goes on to show how Pelosi, Harris and Biden should also be impeached for incitement>


"...Five, the country is dangerously divided....
The man sent a mob to disrupt an election signoff that he lost. That's exactly the type of action the founding fathers would have kicked a president out of office for.
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:18 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Oh for god sakes. All of that comes during the trial in front of the Senate. Did you learn nothing from early 2020.
Procedures of the House for Impeachment. Or maybe you prefer Pelosi's new rules she made up.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...ICE-112-28.htm

B. Procedure in the House

Sec. 6. In General; Initiation and Referral of Charges
Sec. 7. Committee Investigations
Sec. 8. Consideration in the House; Voting
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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Obviously Pelosi is filled with and motivated by spite; pure hatred and spite.

That old witch is just as demented as chinaJoe!

What hope is there when we have vengeful, dangerous libs who frequently violate our Constitution running our Nation?
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Originally Posted by bu2 View Post
https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/14/a...nt-incitement/
Nice, point by point dissection of why Pelosi's impeachment show was a farce.

&quot;...One, impeachment was never intended by the founders to become a serial effort to weaken a first-term president. But this latest try will mark the third failed attempt of Democrats in Congress to remove Trump before his allotted tenure....


Two, the country is wracked by a pandemic, recession, a summer of Black Lives Matter and Antifa looting, arson, and violence, and the recent rogue group of Trump supporters storming the Capitol. Washington, D.C. is now militarized in a way not seen since the Civil War. Over 20,000 troops patrol the streets.

Thousands are dying from COVID-19. Politics and incompetence at the state level slow down the widespread vaccination of the vulnerable....


Three, the rushed third impeachment attempt was even sloppier than the first two. There was neither an appointment of a special counsel nor a formal case presented for illegal or improper presidential behavior. Trump’s advocates had no time to present a legal or political refutation of “incitement.”

There was no real debate, just for-show stump speeches in a rushed spasm of hatred—a circus entirely contrary to the Founders’ notion of a solemn and rare procedure....


Four, only those without the prior sin of revving up partisans should cast the first stone.

Many of the supporters of this current impeachment would themselves be impeached under their own vague definitions of “incitement” they now apply to Trump.

In March, then-Senate Minority leader Charles Schumer (R-N.Y.) riled up an angry crowd of pro-abortion protestors at the very doors of the Supreme Court—while it was in session.

To a wild crowd, he threatened individual Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch by name: “You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you . . .....&quot;&quot;

<article goes on to show how Pelosi, Harris and Biden should also be impeached for incitement>


&quot;...Five, the country is dangerously divided....
News flash: Nancy was never impeached. Rumpy on the other hand single handedly owns half of the POTUS impeachments to date
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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And I like how the argument for the multiple attempts to impeach Trump try to frame them in a bubble {comma} as if Trump wasn't engaging in actions from the moment he stepped in office that justified impeaching him.

that man never had a sense of propriety or respect for the office, and treated it like another grift. Extorting an ally for personal gain and sending a mob to disrupt the transfer of power are two separate and holy justified reasons to impeach somebody. The fact that he wasn't impeached the first time just goes to show the complicity the GOP had in making Trump feel he was invincible.
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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And a waste of time and money.

Essentially, it was a big middle finger to half the nation. The old ***** is good at that.
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Pelosi changed the rules.."snap impeachment" because the current process would have taken too long.

And who in Congress is going to argue with her ?

It's moot anyway since the Senate is not going to do anything between now and 1/20. After that..Trump is a private citizen and per our Constitution we don't impeach private citizens.
There is precedent to do this. I for one hope they move forward. We don’t need that orange man having access to intelligence briefings or holding office
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Old 01-15-2021, 04:26 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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There is precedent to do this. I for one hope they move forward. We don’t need that orange man having access to intelligence briefings or holding office
Weak precedent at that. One guy who, in the middle of the trial, ran and handed in his resignation to become a private citizen before the vote.

It won't happen....just wait and see. Those 100 days will come and go.

Nancy wanted public revenge and she got it with her kangaroo court.
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Old 01-15-2021, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I think Trump should be allowed to exit the WH. Impeaching him again is nothing but a power play and one final smear on him.
If they lock the doors and keep him from leaving, could they impeach him then?
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Old 01-15-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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And I like how the argument for the multiple attempts to impeach Trump try to frame them in a bubble {comma} as if Trump wasn't engaging in actions from the moment he stepped in office that justified impeaching him.

that man never had a sense of propriety or respect for the office, and treated it like another grift. Extorting an ally for personal gain and sending a mob to disrupt the transfer of power are two separate and holy justified reasons to impeach somebody. The fact that he wasn't impeached the first time just goes to show the complicity the GOP had in making Trump feel he was invincible.
All presidents treat the office like a grift, but guess what, bucko. Trump is the only POTUS of late who will be leaving office less wealthy than he entered it, so your accusation is just hate, nothing more.


And please, provide us a QUOTE of exactly what he said that constitutes sending a mob. Time now, bucko, to put up or shut up. I expect crickets. Prove me wrong.
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