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Old 02-05-2021, 10:47 PM
 
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More regurgitated garbage. There was no proposal to send stimulus to the illegals. All made up by the right wingers.

The old view. Never believe the right when they tell you what the left believes. They virtually always lie.
Never believe what the left tells you about the right. The left will always try to decieve you with a bunch of liberal propaganda lies.
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Old 02-06-2021, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Never believe what the left tells you about the right. The left will always try to decieve you with a bunch of liberal propaganda lies.
Some truth there but practiced far more by the right. This thread is a fine example. No truth to it at all but still pushed by the right. The "swamp" is another. There is no real evidence of any such but the right pushes it still.
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Old 02-06-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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It seems the liberals on this board are devoting a lot of time and effort to playing with words, trying to obscure the meaning. 42 Democrats voted against preventing illegals from getting payments. While not a resolution to send payments, it is an indicators of what those Democrats believe.

This should have been a 100% agreement that illegals should not get payments. Why would anyone vote against that?
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Old 02-06-2021, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It seems the liberals on this board are devoting a lot of time and effort to playing with words, trying to obscure the meaning. 42 Democrats voted against preventing illegals from getting payments. While not a resolution to send payments, it is an indicators of what those Democrats believe.

This should have been a 100% agreement that illegals should not get payments. Why would anyone vote against that?
Because illegals did not get payments and there was no proposal to do so. So it was simply Republican propaganda without ny real point other than the propaganda. Next they will be putting up a proposal that Russians should not get stimulus payments. That makes as much sense as the illegals
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:20 AM
 
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Look, the facts are clear. The Republicans proposed an Amendment to block Legislation from being considered for stimulus payments to illegal aliens. That is their right, and their fundamental concern if their constituents support it. That’s why they are there. It isn’t Propaganda, or signaling, or discrimination, it is the business of the government. Normal and ordinary.

A vote was taken to identify those that would support such an Amendment. 42 Democrats voted NOT to support it. That infers that Democrats are AGAINST any discussion, or Amendment, PREVENTING illegals from obtaining stimulus funds.

The fact of the matter is it served the purpose of identifying those that say they are against a preventative measure. Pretty clear.
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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Because illegals did not get payments and there was no proposal to do so. So it was simply Republican propaganda without ny real point other than the propaganda. Next they will be putting up a proposal that Russians should not get stimulus payments. That makes as much sense as the illegals
How silly. Russians are not gathering at the border, forming caravans. TO anyone’s knowledge, there aren’t 10 million Russians” living in the shadows” , draining billions of dollars from American taxpayers and sending billions to failed societies where they came from.

The Point was to try and stop a perceived injustice from taking place. Period . Simple and ordinary.
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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Look, the facts are clear. The Republicans proposed an Amendment to block Legislation from being considered for stimulus payments to illegal aliens. That is their right, and their fundamental concern if their constituents support it. That’s why they are there. It isn’t Propaganda, or signaling, or discrimination, it is the business of the government. Normal and ordinary.

A vote was taken to identify those that would support such an Amendment. 42 Democrats voted NOT to support it. That infers that Democrats are AGAINST any discussion, or Amendment, PREVENTING illegals from obtaining stimulus funds.

The fact of the matter is it served the purpose of identifying those that say they are against a preventative measure. Pretty clear.
More silliness. There is no legislative proposal to pay the stimulus to the illegals. So this is simply propaganda. I know the right will deny that but that is the truth. And I would suspect the Democrats would also vote against a proposal to ban paying the stimulus to puppy dogs. That makes as much sense as illegals.

You might also note the thing is procedurally silly. If anyone does ever propose paying to the illegals one of the first few clauses will rescind the Republican restriction.
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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More silliness. There is no legislative proposal to pay the stimulus to the illegals. So this is simply propaganda. I know the right will deny that but that is the truth. And I would suspect the Democrats would also vote against a proposal to ban paying the stimulus to puppy dogs. That makes as much sense as illegals.
There was a Legislative Proposal to PREVENT it from taking place. Democrats are chomping at the bit to PREVENT the last POTUS from running again. It is the exact same situation. Proactive measures , like a chess move, to prevent something that may arrive later.

There isn’t any need by puppy dogs, Russians, or any other group to be considered for payments. Democrats are constantly working to give more and more benefits, considerations, protections , etc. to illegals. They are overly concerned for their plight. The first day’s EO say that right out front. No deportations. Criminals left to roam the streets .
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:34 AM
 
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You might also note the thing is procedurally silly. If anyone does ever propose paying to the illegals one of the first few clauses will rescind the Republican restriction.
Silly? Why, because you don’t agree? Who cares? The Senators are proposing something that they understand to be the Will of the People . That’s what they are paid to do. If Democrats wish to rescind it, that is part of the Legislative process, JUST AS an Amendment Proposal is on the floor. I suppose any and all Government business must first pass the “ silly test “ by Democrats . How frightening.
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:35 AM
 
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There was a Legislative Proposal to PREVENT it from taking place. Democrats are chomping at the bit to PREVENT the last POTUS from running again. It is the exact same situation. Proactive measures , like a chess move, to prevent something that may arrive later.

There isn’t any need by puppy dogs, Russians, or any other group to be considered for payments. Democrats are constantly working to give more and more benefits, considerations, protections , etc. to illegals. They are overly concerned for their plight. The first day’s EO say that right out front. No deportations. Criminals left to roam the streets .
And illegals are very much the same as Puppy Dogs and Russians. No rational reason to ban that which has never been proposed and is very unlikely to be...Thus propaganda.
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