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Old 08-25-2021, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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^Says another "armchair QB"



How was she an immediate threat to the cop who'd shot her? Even though she was unarmed, she was quite a distance away from him at the time he had committed the homicide by shooting her.
Prove how any LEO confronted with the mob would know who is/isn't armed? You for one would be posting that anyone shot while participating in the protests last summer was justified because they placed themselves into that mob, so what's the difference?
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Prove how any LEO confronted with the mob would know who is/isn't armed? You for one would be posting that anyone shot while participating in the protests last summer was justified because they placed themselves into that mob, so what's the difference?
Exactly. This is the same group who says cops are there to enforce the law not be "gentle" with the perceived criminals.

But now they're saying the cops should approach the mob and ask if they are armed.

You can't make this stuff up. Party of law and order...haha

She got what she deserved, she should have complied with the police. I support law and order, period.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:35 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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She was the leading edge. If she got through a hoard would have followed her. That cop made sure he held the barrier to safeguard everyone behind it.

She got what she deserved. No tears shed for someone who was hellbent on stopping the peaceful transfer of power, the hallmark of our Constitution.
Where did you say the same about blm antifa?


Why did the cops not even bother to try and control the crowd in that room before it had gotten to that point?
Surely our government has items to use crowd control , like smoke/pepper/teargas bombs, rubber bullets, etc., right? Surely they could have used them on the crowd while the crowd was outside, instead of allowing them into the building and taking them on the tour. Or, they could have used those items on the crowd that were in that room ... a few smoke or teargas bombs would have cleared that room out pretty fast.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:40 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Prove how any LEO confronted with the mob would know who is/isn't armed?
She had been hanging on to the window frame with both hands.....did you see any weapon in her hand in that video? I certainly did not.


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You for one would be posting that anyone shot while participating in the protests last summer was justified because they placed themselves into that mob, so what's the difference?
Really? Show me where I'd said that in the threads about the blm antifa riots?
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:45 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Exactly. This is the same group who says cops are there to enforce the law not be "gentle" with the perceived criminals.

But now they're saying the cops should approach the mob and ask if they are armed.


You can't make this stuff up. Party of law and order...haha

She got what she deserved, she should have complied with the police. I support law and order, period.
When were those things said and who had said them?

Ohhh right, you're just making things up.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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Where did you say the same about blm antifa?
Where have I said anything about BLM or Antifa? And why would I on a thread about the traitorous insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt who was attempting to prevent the Constitutionally mandated peaceful transfer of power?

If you can't defend your stance without resorting to deflection it's a good indication you have no stance to defend.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So blm antifa should have been mowed down all across the country and should be mowed down in the future? Be careful what you wish for.
And besides that, much of what you say would go for those like Floyd, Brown, etc.
If they are trying to break intro a building where Congress is in session, yes. Mow them all down.

Big difference between being killed as part of an invading terrorist mob and one-on-one contact with LEOs in the street.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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She was the leading edge. If she got through a horde would have followed her. That cop made sure he held the barrier to safeguard everyone behind it.

She got what she deserved. No tears shed for someone who was hellbent on stopping the peaceful transfer of power, the hallmark of our Constitution.
The guard stopped the invasion cold. When she hit the ground it took a lot of the wind out of the sails of Trump's Thugs. He did his job and was exonerated and commended after the investigation was completed into his actions that day.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:09 AM
 
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The guard stopped the invasion cold. When she hit the ground it took a lot of the wind out of the sails of Trump's Thugs. He did his job and was exonerated and commended after the investigation was completed into his actions that day.
Agreed. There's no telling what would have happened if she had been allowed to breach that barrier and the violent mob behind her was allowed to swarm through. They may have achieved their objective to stop the transfer of power, effectively overthrowing the government.

Her dead body was the deterrent it needed to be to prevent that from happening. You'll note that not a single insurrectionist attempted to breach that barrier again. The cop fulfilled his mission.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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Without reading the officer's verbal/written statement we are all armchair quarterbacks on this thing. The media is hardly a reputable/reliable source.

The Supreme Court has laid down some pretty solid rulings on UoDF over the years for LE. That case law is the standard applicable, not everyone's various axes they choose to grind.

Tennessee v. Gardner, Graham v. Connor are two good ones.
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