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Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9
You have it exactly backward. No judge anywhere could possibly say there was no fraud. No such question was ever presented to a judge.
And Trump didn't lie about anything. He made claims that are unproven but continue to gain evidentiary support, such as the Time article describing a "cabal" that conspired to steal the election by doing things like changing the rules to facilitate fraud and hiring "armies" of poll workers with private money (see the recent revelations regarding Green Bay, for example). Then there's the recent shredding of ballots in Maricopa County in advance of the upcoming audit and Georgia's refusal to audit Fulton County because of apparently due to fears of being called racist.
And there was no insurrection. There was some pushing and shoving that could fairly be called a riot, but it wasn't challenging government authority.
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I wasn't going to answer this at all because certain people already go ballistic when I post 6 times at once. (I explained that I don't come here every day, I have a life. So when I come I may read 20 posts and reply to 6...)
You lost me at "And Trump didn't lie about anything." LOL!
But this is something I HAD to comment on:
You wrote
"And there was no insurrection. There was some pushing and shoving that could fairly be called a riot, but it wasn't challenging government authority."
Trump was there that day to stop or reverse the certification of Electoral College votes!!! He wanted Pence to NOT do the job Pence was Constitutionally sworn to do! So when Pence didn't, suddenly his loyal lapdog Pence was Public Enemy #1, as were We the People who voted.
That is what it was ALL about! Pretty much the
definition of an Insurrection.
"SOME PUSHING AND SHOVING, nothing more" ?
Huh?
Those people broke doors, broke glass, killed 5 people including a police officer! Peed and pooped in OUR Capitol! Stole documents!
At least 100 are now arrested with more to come!
They HAD WEAPONS on them and plastic ties to tie someone (Pence?) up.
At least a % of them had military training and some were barking out orders military style!
Some were Oathkeepers, a Domestic Terrorist Group according to the FBI and Proud Boys which Canada has named a Domestic Terrorist Group and the USA SHOULD too.
It was an insurrection in part run by known Domestic Terrorists!
But it's okay with you?
At least one (I forget how many) of those Oathkeepers and Proud Boys had photos taken with some of the Congresspeople and Senators named as inciters of the insurrection a day or two before; (maybe even that day, I'm not 100% sure on that).
I love (hate!) how people get really REALLY upset about Black Lives Matter people
marching for equality and justice, mostly peacefully,
certainly without weapons like were seen that sadly historic day at the Capitol!
NOTE: To my knowledge no BLM protests involved massive throngs of angry violent people
with weapons entering a Federal Government building with intent to wreak havoc and kill and possibly kidnap. No BLM protesters that I know of had weapons or were calling to KILL anyone.
Yet those same people who scream about BLM Protests think that the Insurrection - where people broke into our Nation's Capitol with weapons, shouting to hang the Vice President and kill Nancy Pelosi, certainly egged on if not organized by known Domestic Terrorists - is AOK in their book!
WHAT??!!
My view is the opposite:
All insurrectionists on that day who entered the Capitol should do jail time.
All insurrectionists who can be seen damaging OUR Capitol walls, doors or other property should get an even LONGER sentence.
All insurrectionists who can be seen to call for
violence on that day should do LONG jail time.
All insurrectionists who
hurt anyone in the Capitol should do Maximum jail time!
The INCITERS (Trump, Don Jr. , Giuliani, Pillow Guy, Hawley, Cruz et al) should be removed from office if they are still in one, and given Maximum Prison Time and never be allowed to run for office or be an attorney again.
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