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So what's it called when his fellow officers stand around and watch Chauvin on Floyd's neck for almost 10 minutes, three of which he wasn't breathing? Doesn't sound like the officers were needing Floyd restrained at that point. His actions were against protocol anyway. He should have been placed on his side from the start so he could breathe. Give me a break.
Dereliction of duty.
When a police officer has a restrained person (Floyd's hands were cuffed behind his back the whole time who is suffering distress (no signed of breathing for three minutes), he indeed must immediately do what he can to ease the distress, start chest compressions etc. A cop that doesn't do that, is clearly derelict in his duty.
Doesn't matter that Floyd went crazy as they were putting him in the cop car and started kicking and twisting, and was big and strong enough to cause the cops real problems even with his hands cuffed. Maybe Chauvin and the others were justified in thinking removing the cuff would be a mistake.
And even after Floyd became unresponsive, at least one witness (the MMA bystander) testified that even after a guy who's fighting becomes unconscious, he can suddenly wake up and go right back to the same violent behavior. It's plausible to think that's why Chauvin kept kneeling on him after he was on the ground, apparently for the first five minutes or so.
Still, once Floyd stopped breathing, the ONLY proper course for Chauvin and the other cops, was to get off him and start resuscitation efforts... which they didn't do. That's flagrant dereliction of duty.
There is still NO evidence that the knee on the neck, killed Floyd. There's more evidence that he died from a drug overdose - the autopsy said he had an 11 ng/l level of Fentanyl in his bloodstream. People frequently die from that amount, or less.
It’s amazing the lengths that the right will go to justify or dismiss the killing of an unarmed black man. It’s almost like they’re racists or something
The emergency room doctor who tried to save George Floyd’s life told the Derek Chauvin murder trial on Monday he concluded the 46-year-old Black man most likely died of asphyxiation.
Nobody is disputing the doctor's conclusion. Asphyxiation is oxygen starvation. Floyd was experiencing breathing difficulties all along in the cop car way before he was restrained on the ground. He was obviously suffering symptom of drug overdose already. Chauvin and his fellow officers didn't know why he was complaining that he couldn't breathe but could still speak. Floyd was starving of oxygen due to drug overdose and not due to being choked by Chauvin. If Chauvin was the medical examiner, he would know but he was not. Chauvin was a police officer. Perhaps, we need police officers who are experienced medical examiners. Our expectations of police officers professional performance are ridiculous.
The left is anti-science. Chauvin can't get a fair trial. No juror wants to be subjected to the systemic leftist insurrection that we saw for months on end.
If you believe Floyd overdosed on his fentanyl which causes respiratory depression then you have to accept that Floyd was not resisting arrest. Fentanyl overdose results in suppression of the autonomic nervous system by the time that occurs it is impossible to use your voluntary muscles.
The question remains the same
Why is Chauvin kneeling on the neck of someone face down, handcuffed,not resisting arrest, in medical distress, not breathing and pulseless.
He would not stop kneeling on Floyd until the EMT made him. The police superintendent already testified that Chauvin had been trained not to do that and it was against policy and protocol.
There is some culpability here
It\u2019s next to the airway at the front of the neck. You could say it\u2019s on the side of the front. Someone kneeling on his neck from the front could press on it, even unintentionally, but Chauvin was behind him.
You won't be able to occlude these blood vessels (or the trachea) with pressure to the occipital triangle, as we see in the video, or even via direct pressure on the sternocleidomastoid. At least not without doing severe damage to the rest of the neck.
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Originally Posted by Chenping
Chauvin and his fellow officers didn't know why he was complaining that he couldn't breathe but could still speak.
It's possible Floyd could have been asphyxiating while making that amount of noise, but not very likely.
'Possible' in this context refers to the idea that, in medicine/surgery, you will come across rare individuals who defy all predictive trends, models, biometries, algorithms. That would include people who can do seemingly magical things with their voice.
Or maybe he ruled it a homicide because a police officer kneeled on someone's neck for nine long minutes, while that person was prone on the ground, hands handcuffed behind him, with two other officers holding him down. That person begged for help, repeatedly, until, during the last three minutes, he stopped moving altogether. THREE minutes, no movement. He had no pulse when the ambulance arrived. The EMT had to ask Chauvin to get off of Floyd. So maybe the medical examiner ruled it a homicide because that is what it was.
Maybe there is way to much energy being expended on the death of a low-life.
What I denied was that the homicide was intentional. None of the three charges against Chauvin accused him of intention to kill Floyd. Chauvin was just lending a hand and a knee to help his fellow officers to restrain Floyd. Who knew that it would cause Floyd to die? Nobody.
Actually, the people who recorded it on their cell phones thought Floyd might die. The off-duty firefighter thought that Floyd needed assistance, not a continuing knee on the neck. Most of the people who have watched the video thought so. Most reasonable people think that Chauvin did NOT need to keep his knee on the neck of a man clearly in distress, who was laying prone on the ground, whose hands were handcuffed behind him, and who had two other officers on him. Chauvin wasn't just lending a hand. LOL.
Maybe there is way to much energy being expended on the death of a low-life.
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