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Old 04-02-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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Here we go again. As more than one Democrat has said in the past, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

Biden know he could never get the people's representatives on Congress to pass unconstitutional "gun control" measures. So it looks like he will simply sign some into law by executive fiat - that is, by Executive Order, as though he had the authority to overrule the Constitution.

Recently Biden has expressed interest in a ban on "assault" weapons", though he has not explained what an "assault weapon" is. He has also talked about making "background checks" more strict, though he has not specifically said that govt should infringe the right to keep and bear arms of a person who somehow did not "pass" the background check to the government's satisfaction.

To no one's surprise, none of the reporters in the room even asked if any government "gun control" measure had ever succeeded in lowering the murder rate or other "gun violence" measure.

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https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/jen-ps...cutive-orders/

Jen Psaki says Biden will sign gun control executive orders

by Steven Nelson
March 26, 2021 | 3:10pm

White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Friday confirmed that President Biden intends to sign executive orders on gun control.

Psaki replied “Yes” to a journalist’s question about whether reporters should “be expecting executive orders from the president on gun measures.”

But she said the timing was unclear due to a review process.

So what?

They will all be illegal and will be ignored by all law enforcement, except in far left wing areas in which firearms are already banned.

The US does not have a large enough military to attempt "gun confiscation". Further, very few, if any, soldiers or police would follow orders to begin gun confiscation.

Liberals, bless their hearts, are true fascists and will keep trying to eliminate individual liberties. However, when we live in areas that do not believe in liberal lunacy, such "laws" are ignored.
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Old 04-02-2021, 08:32 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Yawn. we dont even know what he is passing, but somehow you want to make it the end of our nation without any actual clue what it is yet. Got it. LOL.
You were ok with Trump's use of EO's rather than allowing our elected reps to do their jobs? Why do we have a congress and senate if we are ok with the POTUS just using EO's? I can understand for emergencies where time is of the essence, but which EO's that Biden has pushed were due to emergencies? It seems to me he did it to bypass the process.
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: California
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Can't do that by EO and expect it to hold water.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:15 PM
 
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In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: - over 56 million.
Gun control - more deadly than wars.


Now Joe want that here.
More people need to read this and realize the same thing is coming in the US if we continue on this foolish path.


NO Infringements means NONE, NADA, ZILCH, NO background checks, NO credit checks, NO license check, etc! If anyone is confused on the definition of 'Infringement', look it up, its very clear to understand.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:20 PM
 
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So what?

They will all be illegal and will be ignored by all law enforcement, except in far left wing areas in which firearms are already banned.

The US does not have a large enough military to attempt "gun confiscation". Further, very few, if any, soldiers or police would follow orders to begin gun confiscation.

Liberals, bless their hearts, are true fascists and will keep trying to eliminate individual liberties. However, when we live in areas that do not believe in liberal lunacy, such "laws" are ignored.
Why does law enforcement AGGRESSIVELY enforce the automatic firearms laws?
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:29 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: - over 56 million.
Gun control - more deadly than wars.


Now Joe want that here.
I have never cared for guns, never had them, I find that some people tend to fetishize them a bit. Posters of hot chicks sporting guns, lol, whatever floats boats and negates the need for the bill pill, whatever.

That being said based on the historical anecdotes you posted here along with my own research and understanding, I'll fight to the death for two things, the 1A and the 2A, as you need both, one with out the other does no good.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:52 PM
 
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This is just nuts. So the USA is already bitterly divided over arguments over basic rights and freedoms, Americans are rightfullly more and more concerned about crime and social unrest, esp after the riots last summer after the George Floyd incident that burned down half of American cities, looking to get personal protection. Which is their right under the 2nd amendment, And Biden pours oil on the fire by signing EO's to attack this basic right? By what authority does he do this? The answer is none, he has no such authority. Powder keg, meet the match.
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I don't understand how people who think masks are dangerous are also the same people who think guns are just harmless normal thingies that should be free of control and regulation.

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If firearms were incapable of doing harm they would be used as paper weights and door stops.

They are useful specifically because they can harm living entities that need and ought to be harmed.

At the time of the Constitution's ratification, firearms had recently been used successfully to harm the armies of King George III, various hostile strangers and even wildlife.

Since foreign armies, hostile strangers and interaction with wildlife were an ongoing fact of life, the Founders recognized that fire arm possession was a fundamental right of all Americans.
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:01 AM
 
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This is just nuts. So the USA is already bitterly divided over arguments over basic rights and freedoms, Americans are rightfullly more and more concerned about crime and social unrest, esp after the riots last summer after the George Floyd incident that burned down half of American cities, looking to get personal protection. Which is their right under the 2nd amendment, And Biden pours oil on the fire by signing EO's to attack this basic right? By what authority does he do this? The answer is none, he has no such authority. Powder keg, meet the match.
Are you willing and ready to take up arms against the US Govt though?


Keep in mind, this means probably engaging in gun battles with local and state police first.


The 2A was the most effective tool to prevent tyranny...but the catch is, the public has to be willing to take up those arms AGAINST the govt, (should they ever cross the line)...that is a BIG step!, (and could easily be confused with domestic terrorism).
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: - over 56 million.
Gun control - more deadly than wars.


Now Joe want that here.

The constant use of these events, and linking them to gun control is total BS. Nazi Germany never changed their gun laws in fact they relaxed them for German citizens. Germany simply passed laws that said if you had one grandparent on either side who was Jewish you were no longer a citizen of Germany. Jewish people had their German Citizenship stripped by the Nuremburg laws. They were considered non-citizen who had no rights to own guns were eventually rounded up and deported to be killed in gas chambers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarm...he_German_Jews

The idea that people who are armed with "small arms" without being constantly supplied by a 3rd party can defend against a well supplied military with heavy weapons is a fantasy.

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