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Old 04-06-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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Nothing wrong with people making informed choices is there?

Interestingly, I read that Chinese officials are refusing to get the vaccine. Not sure if there is already a thread about that.


http://www.capoliticalreview.com/cap...ne-so-far-cdc/
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Old 04-06-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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#1 - VAERS does no causal analysis that I'm aware of.

#2 - What percentage of the 56M+ fully vaccinated Americans is 2249? What percentage of the 136M+ Americans who have received at least one dose is it?
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Old 04-06-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Anyone can report anything to VAERS and there's no indication that there's any pattern of deaths that would mean the vaccine is causing them.

But even if all 2,249 deaths did stem from the vaccine (which is extremely unlikely), that is out of 108 million doses. So it's about 0.002% of shots that have possibly caused a problem.

When you have a group of 108 million people who all do something, it's inevitable that some will die within 48 hours. Take 108 million people who ate a carrot. Or who called their uncle. Or who hung a picture on a wall. Or who went to Walmart. Or who parked crooked in the driveway. Or who opened a window. Chances are 100% that some will die within the next two days simply because of the number of people we're talking about.

So yes, I am all for informed choices. I'm at exponentially greater risk driving my car to the pharmacy to get my vaccine than I am getting the shot itself. I'll still drive there, though.
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Old 04-06-2021, 01:48 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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2249<~600k
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Old 04-06-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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I am driving 120 miles and back on Saturday to get the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. In my county there is a serious shortage so I'm going to a county where it's available to anyone 16 and up. I am at very low risk of either death by Covid or vaccine but still want to end this thing so we can open the **** up.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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2249 deaths with 136.7 million doses given. That's a death rate of 0.000016

Now compare that to Covid:

556,185 deaths with 30,828,216 total cases in the U.S. That's a death rate of .018.


Les't compare those death rates:

.18/.000016= 1096



Fun fact: Covid-19 is approximately 1100 times as deadly as the vaccine.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:04 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...Fun fact: Covid-19 is approximately 1100 times as deadly as the vaccine.
Correction: 1100 times as deadly as the vaccine *might* be.

Reps to you!
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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2249 deaths with 136.7 million doses given. That's a death rate of 0.000016

Now compare that to Covid:

556,185 deaths with 30,828,216 total cases in the U.S. That's a death rate of .018.


Les't compare those death rates:

.18/.000016= 1096



Fun fact: Covid-19 is approximately 1100 times as deadly as the vaccine.

Largely depends on the age. For someone in their 20s and early 30s, it might be a wash either way. For under 20, the vaccine might be more dangerous but still very low risk.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Only about 1% of adverse reactions are reported to VAERS.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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First off, there are several vaccines available. None of the Chinese ones are used in the U.S.

Secondly, the 'data' on that site is fake.

Thirdly, even if if were true (it's not), 2249 deaths out of 168,592,075 shots given as of April 6. That's 0.00001 percent of people passing. As someone else so rightly pointed out, just taking nearly 170m people and having 2000 of them die of anything is just statistics.

The vaccines work, look at Israel. Stop with the lies.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations
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