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Old 04-14-2021, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Various
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Facts lacking context are often meaningless.

Blacks and white use drugs equally as often, but blacks are disproportionately pulled over, illegally searched, charged and convicted.

It is impossible for that to occur any way other then discrimination.

In fact police are more often to find drugs when searching white cars, so if their motive was to arrest more drug users, they are very bad at profiling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ite-drivers-2/

Blacks are not involving themselves more with police than whites.

Police are involving themselves more with blacks.
Apply what ever "context" you want that will make you feel better, but the facts don't change.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:51 AM
 
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So they were redlined when white people still lived there? Ok, then redlining in not a racist scheme to keep black people down. Can’t have it both ways. And neither can NPR.
Blacks were not allowed to buy in suburbs. They were restricted to urban areas. Redling involves more than what you seem to be familiar with. It was never just not insuring based on any factor other than race. It was never about 'risky' neighborhood due to crime stats or anything other than the color of skin.

It was put into deed restrictions that blacks could never buy in suburbs. Allowing a black person or family to buy put everyone's FHA status at risk.

Integrated housing was torn down. Segregated housing went up. The goal was to keep the races separate, and the best neighborhoods reserved for whites only.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:52 AM
 
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Agree. Why is it that civilians are seemingly being asked to de-escalate adrenaline-fueled cops?
I've thought about something. Part of me wonders if there is a mentality of "we need cops more than we need civilians ".
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:54 AM
 
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Apply what ever "context" you want that will make you feel better, but the facts don't change.
The facts are that police target blacks more often then whites and so yes, they are going to find more crime among the people they are targeting than among the ones they are leaving alone.

That does not mean they are committing more crime.

I could carry a kilo around for the rest of my life and never get caught with it because police are not going to search my car w/o probable cause, as they do to blacks all the time.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The facts are that police target blacks more often then whites and so yes, they are going to find more crime among the people they are targeting than among the ones they are leaving alone.

That does not mean they are committing more crime.

I could carry a kilo around for the rest of my life and never get caught with it because police are not going to search my car w/o probable cause, as they do to blacks all the time.
So are you saying that the riots (excuse me.... "mostly peaceful protests")..... are justified?
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Armbands or little stars are not needed to differentiate white people from black people.



https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america
Good thing it's 2021, not 1933.

Welcome to 21st century.


Believe it or not, in the 21st century black people can live with white people if they so desire. Shocking i know.

Like that BLM activist who bought her $1.4 million home in Topanga to live with white people.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:59 AM
 
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Blacks were not allowed to buy in suburbs. They were restricted to urban areas. Redling involves more than what you seem to be familiar with. It was never just not insuring based on any factor other than race. It was never about 'risky' neighborhood due to crime stats or anything other than the color of skin.

It was put into deed restrictions that blacks could never buy in suburbs. Allowing a black person or family to buy put everyone's FHA status at risk.

Integrated housing was torn down. Segregated housing went up. The goal was to keep the races separate, and the best neighborhoods reserved for whites only.
True. And to me, it boils down to this: Many people simply didn't want Black people in society. Since Black people couldn't be deported, the next thing to do was make sure Black people were kept at a distance from the rest of society. This is why the U.S. military was segregated up to WWII, and why Black soldiers frequently sound themselves excluded from the G.I. Bill, and even assaulted or killed once back into civilian society.

Segregation housing was meant to keep Blacks from being part of the larger American society. It was also meant to ensure Blacks would remain in positions of inferiority and subservience.
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:01 AM
 
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Alleged.
Yes, alleged. If he was arrested he'd have to face those charges. He didn't want to the first time and he didn't want to this time.
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:01 AM
 
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The facts are that police target blacks more often then whites and so yes, they are going to find more crime among the people they are targeting than among the ones they are leaving alone.

That does not mean they are committing more crime.

I could carry a kilo around for the rest of my life and never get caught with it because police are not going to search my car w/o probable cause, as they do to blacks all the time.
Whatever reason they come into contact with Police, they aren't disproportionately killed when that occurs. Divert all you like.
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:02 AM
 
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The facts are that police target blacks more often then whites and so yes, they are going to find more crime among the people they are targeting than among the ones they are leaving alone.

That does not mean they are committing more crime.

I could carry a kilo around for the rest of my life and never get caught with it because police are not going to search my car w/o probable cause, as they do to blacks all the time.
I'm sure your have stats and proof that this statement is true?
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