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To be honest I could care less if Congress forced gun manufacturers to produce rifles with fixed magazines that only hold say 5 or 10 rounds. That won't stop mass shootings in schools nor will it make it less likely for high casualties. The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 people with a couple of 9mm handguns. We need to treat our schools just as government buildings that have high security and armed protection. Hell my marijuana dispensary has two armed guards. We have armed guards for our weed but not for our kids?
That would really be the pits for the lost hunter in the woods who has put one arm in a sling because he slipped into a gully.
You tell me, you only have one arm available, do you want to load your rifle with preloaded magazines or try to put rounds in, one by one, when you hurt, cold, and your survival is at stake.
You try to get that law enacted in other states and see what the NRA would do.
It is a hunting rule. Now federal law says that one cannot own a shotgun with a too short barrel (under 18 inches). That doesn't involve the 2nd amendment, does it? Not every gun law does.
Sure you can, you just need to pay extra for the tax stamp.
If the states have gun laws which have been allowed to stand by SCOTUS (they do!) then those laws, by definition, are NOT unconstitutional.
SCOTUS handing down a faulty decision doesn't make an unconstitutional law Constitutional. SCOTUS has overturned its own decisions more than 300 times. Why? Each of those prior decisions was unconstitutional.
That would really be the pits for the lost hunter in the woods who has put one arm in a sling because he slipped into a gully.
You tell me, you only have one arm available, do you want to load your rifle with preloaded magazines or try to put rounds in, one by one, when you hurt, cold, and your survival is at stake.
Good job. At least you explained your view without being snide. I conceal carry a 9mm with a 20 round mag and 2 spares or 60 round total and you would never know. Is it necessary? I hope not.
I have a conceal carry and pack a S&W Shield 9mm with a 10 round magazine. I could pack a couple extra magazines if I wanted to. I've never done that though. I'm usually not snide unless provoked.
Q: And what happens if you don't have a "sportsman's plug"? Or you leave it at home when you go out to the field? Or you simply don't want to use one?
A: The state government Fines you. Or forbids you to fire the gun. Or confiscates your gun. Or puts you in jail. Or some other coercive action. In other words, the state govt infringes your right to keep and bear arms. The 2nd amendment is very much involved. Because if the 2nd didn't exist, your state government would be perfectly OK to do such things.
It IS perfectly ok for them to do those things.
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But since it does exist, they can't forbid or restrict you from using your gun in any of those circumstances.
The 2nd amendment exists and the state can make the restrictions you mentioned.
President Biden recently came up with the interesting statement that "No Constitutional amendment is absolute". It's the usual wishful thinking that liberals use when they want to violate an amendment, usually the 2nd. They also frequently use the phrase "reasonable restrictions".
Keep in mind that when leftist do-gooders say they want only a few more "reasonable restrictions" on guns, it's because the restrictions they imposed last year didn't work. Crime and mass shootings continue merrily along, and even increase. And so now they want to impose a few more regulations and restrictions. And when those don't work, next year a few more. And every time, their latest round of restrictions, never bring down the murder rate or severe-crime rate.
Liberals are 0-for-everything in reducing "gun crimes" or lowering the murder rate, etc. How many times have they put over "gun control" laws? We have, what, upwards of 20,000 such laws, all of questionable constitutionality. And what does Joe find himself facing? Mass shootings are happening more and more during the three months of his term so far. Any chance he'll take the failure rate of liberals' "reasonable restrictions" into account, before adding more of them?
So-called "gun control" laws are only obeyed by the law-abiding. And they aren't the ones causing the problem.
We can’t use bazookas or my choice of weapon a fire thrower. Can’t legally drive 150 mpg on the Main Street - can’t drive unbuckled - n some places can’t even get an abortion. So what’s your problem? Get these guns away from these messed up kids. Unless you are one, think you would agree.
SCOTUS handing down a faulty decision doesn't make an unconstitutional law Constitutional. SCOTUS has overturned its own decisions more than 300 times. Why? Each of those prior decisions was unconstitutional.
No, that's not the reason. A prior decision may have been in error but the decision was not unconstitutional.
That means that it does not involve the second amendment.
Why not? If the purpose of the second amendment is to have an armed citizenry ready for militia service then SCOTUS was explaining the type of weapons are used in a militia which is not a sawed off shotgun. Their opinion even says it
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In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.
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Why not? If the purpose of the second amendment is to have an armed citizenry ready for militia service then SCOTUS was explaining the type of weapons are used in a militia which is not a sawed off shotgun. Their opinion even says it
