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Three heavily reinforced steel frame buildings collapsed at free fall speed on 9-11. One of which was not even touched by an airplane, the other 2 had relatively minor damage and fires burning, and were built to withstand multiple air crashes. No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire before in history.
There were molten pools of steel found at the bottom of all 3 buildings that burned for months. Fires produced by the jet fuel did not come close to that required to produce those pools.
The buildings were relatively bare of flammable materials, and were designed to isolate fires.
Who planted the explosives? Well, a security company with ties to Marvin Bush presided over the building for months before 9-11. Occupants reported banks of elevators being made unavailable for use for days at a time, and loud rumbling noises were heard on supposedly vacant floors.
I refuse to believe that we did it to ourselves, I have more faith in our government than that, but, if it was proven without a doubt that our government had anything to do with it then i would be all for over throwing the government in a second.
Do I believe the official story, well not entirely. Do I believe the United States government sabotaged our own buildings and killed our own people in order to further a political agenda, no. Why, because it actually worked for one and no one leaked anything about the alleged plot in this administration!
There are certainly a good number of things that haven't been adequately investigated so thus no entirely conclusive answer can be found. However, I think what needs to be investigated is various acts of ineptitude, gross mistakes, and lack of any accountability or responsibility for such a massive failure of, well, everything.
Interesting side note, they recently recovered 99% of the data from the last Space Shuttle black box that disintegrated upon reentry at the edge of space. To this day, I am not aware that any of the black boxes from the four planes on Sept 11th have ever been found, let alone any data retrieved. (or at least I have never heard of them being retrieved)
I'm not a fan of Conspiracy theories and all that garbage, and I certainly don't believe this one. You really think our own government would do this? Not to mention the fact that Osama himself said he did it, so the US government must be working with him too, right? The government must be killing our own troops overseas too then? What about the terror attacks in Europe, was the US government behind those attacks?
Do I believe the official story, well not entirely. Do I believe the United States government sabotaged our own buildings and killed our own people in order to further a political agenda, no. Why, because it actually worked for one and no one leaked anything about the alleged plot in this administration!
There are certainly a good number of things that haven't been adequately investigated so thus no entirely conclusive answer can be found. However, I think what needs to be investigated is various acts of ineptitude, gross mistakes, and lack of any accountability or responsibility for such a massive failure of, well, everything.
Interesting side note, they recently recovered 99% of the data from the last Space Shuttle black box that disintegrated upon reentry at the edge of space. To this day, I am not aware that any of the black boxes from the four planes on Sept 11th have ever been found, let alone any data retrieved. (or at least I have never heard of them being retrieved)
I think the fact that the Bush Administration did all they could to hinder the investigation is very suspect. Selling off the evidence as scrap metal was not only suspect, it should have been a prosecutable crime. For instance, a guy has some marijuana in his car. He gets pulled over by the police and trys to eat his stash. The police can then charge him with "destruction of evidence". Well, if that is a crime, then surely that was a crime. And it's not like this kind of thing is unheard of. Germany used the Riechstag fire as the final push to send Germany to war. And I never underestimate the greed of the elite of the world. I am not saying I have definative proof of wrong doing. But I do believe there is a definate need for further investigation. Oh, and I think the "keep quiet" attitude of the administration would not be that hard to see through. With the magnitude of the crime, anyone who even had the slightest thing to do with it would know that the punishment would most certainly be death. Or maybe life in prison, if the mob didn't take them first! Thanks for reading!
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I think the fact that the Bush Administration did all they could to hinder the investigation is very suspect. Selling off the evidence as scrap metal was not only suspect, it should have been a prosecutable crime. For instance, a guy has some marijuana in his car. He gets pulled over by the police and trys to eat his stash. The police can then charge him with "destruction of evidence". Well, if that is a crime, then surely that was a crime. And it's not like this kind of thing is unheard of. Germany used the Riechstag fire as the final push to send Germany to war. And I never underestimate the greed of the elite of the world. I am not saying I have definative proof of wrong doing. But I do believe there is a definate need for further investigation. Oh, and I think the "keep quiet" attitude of the administration would not be that hard to see through. With the magnitude of the crime, anyone who even had the slightest thing to do with it would no that the punishment would most certainly be death. Or maybe life in prison, if the mob didn't take them first! Thanks for reading!
Someone recently did a poll that showed that more than 1 in 4 people think that there are things about 911 that are amiss. Everything from the government blowing the buildings, to the government knowing about the plot and yet doing nothing to stop it to further an agenda, to people that think that the cover up is in the handling of what took place afterwards. That is a pretty substantial number.
My biggest gripe to be honest is that the use of the term conspiracy theory is used to deflect any criticism of this issue or anything really. This connotation invokes visions of tin foil hat wearing folks screaming about the black helicopters, etc... Conspiracies happen every day in our lives from government to corporations, to mere employees plotting to lift some petty cash from work. Some are way out there and far beyond the realm of reality, others are quite plausible but since they are at the time unprovable, they get the kook attachment to them.
In any event, I don't believe anyone will ever know exactly all what transpired prior and afterwards. What does sicken me is that it was a monstrous tragedy of monumental proportions and it was used as the casus belli for a policy and preconceived plan that has led to the greatest foreign policy disaster in American history, not to mention the economic fallout.
Ground Zero, and the remains of the towers, were sifted through, analyzed, photographed etc more than any other ruble in the history of the world (IMO).
I don't believe the official story. What I do believe is that we've allowed other people on this planet to have no respect for the lives of others. 9/11 and other acts of terrorism are a direct result of that abdication of principles, a failure shared by victim and perpetrator alike. Pointing fingers is ultimately a wasteful exercise as all participants play their role, conscious or otherwise.
However, if you intuit the official 9/11 story to be a lie, that is a good first step. The next step isn't revenge or exposure of the lies, it's finding a way to not allow any more lies.
Ground Zero, and the remains of the towers, were sifted through, analyzed, photographed etc more than any other ruble in the history of the world (IMO).
I do not believe in the conspiracy theories
You mean you don't believe Watergate, the Iran-Contra scandal, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mongoose, or the bombing of Cambodia ever took place?
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