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Vaccinated people, when exposed to COVID19, will probably always get it. But getting it isn't a big deal if you're vaccinated. Isn't that how this is supposed to work? Why are positive test results freaking people out?
None 100%. But there will more breakthrough cases with J&J
UPDATE: I read one of the links below and it says they took J&J
I remember reading that scientists believe the J&J builds more immunity that they thought up to a month after receiving it. Here is an excellent article with lots of info about this particular vaccine.
I remember reading that scientists believe the J&J builds more immunity that they thought up to a month after receiving it. Here is an excellent article with lots of info about this particular vaccine.
https://www.prevention.com/health/a3...id-19-vaccine/
The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is about 66% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19, and 85% effective at preventing a severe or critical form of COVID-19 that can lead to hospitalization or death at least 28 days after vaccination, according to data released by the company, which was confirmed in an FDA analysis.
All 8 have been fully vaccinated and the team now saying likely a lot more-- it's a full blown COVID19 outbreak among Yankees team members who've gotten the vaccine.
"But the vaccine isn't 100% effective"! Yes, but the number of infected COVID people on the Yankees team is whole lot more than the usual 5 or 10 percent failure rate or whatever's cited. This is an outbreak, a little epidemic with a whole team, something that "wasn't supposed to happen" with vaccination.
"But at least they have mild cases!" Low risk people like Yankees baseball players had mild cases of COVID19 even before the vaccine-- not one MLB, NFL or NBA player died of COVID19 in 2020 before the vaccine, either. Not even that many people got COVID but for those who did, their cases were almost always mild. So the only justification for vaccinating such low risk people (since we don't know the long term effects of the vaccines and have less than year of clinical trial information) was to "stop the spread"-- this is the excuse the CDC and some doomers are using now to try to push the vaccines on American kids, who are at extremely low risk for COVID with almost no deaths. (The flu kills more kids each year than COVID).
Except the vaccine does not stop the spread of COVID like we're clearly seeing, and there are even outbreaks among totally vaccinated people. Or maybe the vaccine's wearing off? Or it's ex. one of those mutants from India or S. Africa that's apparently resistant to the vaccines and infects vaccinated people anyway, and now hitting the Yankees dugout? This also shows a lot of the CDC's claims about low levels of COVID in vaccinated population are from incompetent data collection-- clearly, the something like 100-160,000 Americans getting COVID every week aren't being sorted on their vaccination status at the testing centers. Some haven't been vaccinated, some have-- we don't know because the data isn't linking a positive test to vaccinated status either way. So among the COVID diagnoses each week for the US, the largest group isn't "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated", it's "we don't know if they're vaccinated or not because we're not reporting it". If 8 and counting healthy New York Yankees get COVID19 in an outbreak, clearly the coronavirus can spread in people who've gotten vaccinated just as easily.
"But COVID19 infection levels are dropping rapidly!"
They did same thing last year in 2020 without the vaccine. Look at the infection graphs in 2020, and you'll see exact same pattern like we're seeing this year in 2021-- the vaccine isn't what brought down the curve, it's that COVID (at least most strains here) get weaker in warmer weather and don't spread so much. Come fall and winter, they come back.
Either way, there's little justification in any way to vaccinate low risk people and especially kids. They aren't at COVID risk even without vaccine, and it makes no sense to use them as guinea pigs for an experimental vaccine with so little data to show it's safe over long term. The one argument that the pro-vaxx fanatics had, for kids and low risk people, was that the vaccine would stop the spread. Obviously it's not doing that. Last week or so we had Damion Lee on the Golden State Warriors, and now a mass outbreak of COVID19 in a whole pro sports team even after getting the vaccine. Pro sports players should have never been shut down to begin with, they were at very low risk and it was crazy to lock down all of sports and events like that for people who rarely get sick from COVID even without the vaccine. But now it's nonsense to be making special rules for young, healthy and or other low risk people based on their vaccination status-- open up the country for all, not giving some sort of special snowflake status for people who've gotten the shot.
The CDC has no credibility any longer after getting practically everything wrong last year and early this year, and it's arrogant for them to be making some kind of special proclamation for vaccinated people and masks as if their vaccine status makes them special. (Lots of Americans have gotten antibodies from COVID infection too, do they not qualify)? And many Americans are still getting COVID anyway and winding up in the hospital with or without the vaccine, especially with all the new mutants getting more common. As high risk people, my wife and I are now looking to get the shot once they update it for the new mutants-- makes no sense to get it now when it doesn't seem to be working against the newer mutants. But our kids, healthy and of child-bearing age have no reason to and are not getting it. And we will certainly not allow our grandkids to get an experimental mrna vaccine with no long term information on effects to back it up. Especially when they're barely affected by COVID and the vaccine anyway doesn't stop the spread.
What vaccine did they all get? Different or all the same? Was it the J$J which has a much lower rate of effectiveness ? 68% is kind of low if you think about it. One third are vulnerable to getting covid.
Vaccinated people, when exposed to COVID19, will probably always get it. But getting it isn't a big deal if you're vaccinated. Isn't that how this is supposed to work? Why are positive test results freaking people out?
They just reduce your odds across the board. Lower odds of catching it, lower odds of having symptoms, lower odds of having severe symptoms and/or dying from it. For none of the vaccines do any of these odds go to 0 or near 0.
What vaccine did they all get? Different or all the same? Was it the J$J which has a much lower rate of effectiveness ? 68% is kind of low if you think about it. One third are vulnerable to getting covid.
Vaccinated people, when exposed to COVID19, will probably always get it. But getting it isn't a big deal if you're vaccinated. Isn't that how this is supposed to work? Why are positive test results freaking people out?
No, vaccinated people are much less likely to get it.
7 of 8 have no symptoms. The person with symptoms is feeling better now.
This shows how good the vaccines work.
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