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All 8 have been fully vaccinated and the team now saying likely a lot more-- it's a full blown COVID19 outbreak among Yankees team members who've gotten the vaccine.
"But the vaccine isn't 100% effective"! Yes, but the number of infected COVID people on the Yankees team is whole lot more than the usual 5 or 10 percent failure rate or whatever's cited. This is an outbreak, a little epidemic with a whole team, something that "wasn't supposed to happen" with vaccination.
"But at least they have mild cases!" Low risk people like Yankees baseball players had mild cases of COVID19 even before the vaccine-- not one MLB, NFL or NBA player died of COVID19 in 2020 before the vaccine, either. Not even that many people got COVID but for those who did, their cases were almost always mild. So the only justification for vaccinating such low risk people (since we don't know the long term effects of the vaccines and have less than year of clinical trial information) was to "stop the spread"-- this is the excuse the CDC and some doomers are using now to try to push the vaccines on American kids, who are at extremely low risk for COVID with almost no deaths. (The flu kills more kids each year than COVID).
Except the vaccine does not stop the spread of COVID like we're clearly seeing, and there are even outbreaks among totally vaccinated people. Or maybe the vaccine's wearing off? Or it's ex. one of those mutants from India or S. Africa that's apparently resistant to the vaccines and infects vaccinated people anyway, and now hitting the Yankees dugout? This also shows a lot of the CDC's claims about low levels of COVID in vaccinated population are from incompetent data collection-- clearly, the something like 100-160,000 Americans getting COVID every week aren't being sorted on their vaccination status at the testing centers. Some haven't been vaccinated, some have-- we don't know because the data isn't linking a positive test to vaccinated status either way. So among the COVID diagnoses each week for the US, the largest group isn't "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated", it's "we don't know if they're vaccinated or not because we're not reporting it". If 8 and counting healthy New York Yankees get COVID19 in an outbreak, clearly the coronavirus can spread in people who've gotten vaccinated just as easily.
"But COVID19 infection levels are dropping rapidly!"
They did same thing last year in 2020 without the vaccine. Look at the infection graphs in 2020, and you'll see exact same pattern like we're seeing this year in 2021-- the vaccine isn't what brought down the curve, it's that COVID (at least most strains here) get weaker in warmer weather and don't spread so much. Come fall and winter, they come back.
Either way, there's little justification in any way to vaccinate low risk people and especially kids. They aren't at COVID risk even without vaccine, and it makes no sense to use them as guinea pigs for an experimental vaccine with so little data to show it's safe over long term. The one argument that the pro-vaxx fanatics had, for kids and low risk people, was that the vaccine would stop the spread. Obviously it's not doing that. Last week or so we had Damion Lee on the Golden State Warriors, and now a mass outbreak of COVID19 in a whole pro sports team even after getting the vaccine. Pro sports players should have never been shut down to begin with, they were at very low risk and it was crazy to lock down all of sports and events like that for people who rarely get sick from COVID even without the vaccine. But now it's nonsense to be making special rules for young, healthy and or other low risk people based on their vaccination status-- open up the country for all, not giving some sort of special snowflake status for people who've gotten the shot.
The CDC has no credibility any longer after getting practically everything wrong last year and early this year, and it's arrogant for them to be making some kind of special proclamation for vaccinated people and masks as if their vaccine status makes them special. (Lots of Americans have gotten antibodies from COVID infection too, do they not qualify)? And many Americans are still getting COVID anyway and winding up in the hospital with or without the vaccine, especially with all the new mutants getting more common. As high risk people, my wife and I are now looking to get the shot once they update it for the new mutants-- makes no sense to get it now when it doesn't seem to be working against the newer mutants. But our kids, healthy and of child-bearing age have no reason to and are not getting it. And we will certainly not allow our grandkids to get an experimental mrna vaccine with no long term information on effects to back it up. Especially when they're barely affected by COVID and the vaccine anyway doesn't stop the spread.
It's interesting. On one hand there is data out of Israel which is very promising. And then there is more and more data like this which make me doubt the efficacy of these vaccines. To have an outbreak means this virus broke through 8 people fully vaccinated out of presumably several hundred staff.
Except the vaccine does not stop the spread of COVID
False.
There's a reason covid infections in the US are still declining even while restrictions are loosening. It's because nearly 50% of the population has now gotten a vaccine.
There's a reason covid infections in the US are still declining even while restrictions are loosening. It's because nearly 50% of the population has now gotten a vaccine.
The vaccines can be working, but with lower efficacy. Or we can have a variant that they don't work well against.
Now hold on just a second. I just heard on the radio (a Utah State "public service" advertisement) fifteen minutes ago (and every twenty minutes before that) that if I get the vaccine, it not only protects me, but protects everyone else around me as well. That in itself gave me all the more reason to NOT get a vaccine. The way I figure it and the way the state makes it sound, if vaccines protect the person getting the vaccine along with everyone else that person comes in contact with (I guess it is an umbrella sort of thing), then there is absolutely no need for me to get a vaccine. After all, statistically, if I am around others, there is probably close to a 100% chance at this point that one of those people will have been vaccinated. Thus, that one person will be protecting the entire group with his or her vaccine. I was elated when I figured this out!
But the OP has made me question this State-sponsored advertisement. It almost looks as if, not only does one vaccine not protect everyone in a group setting, but it doesn't even protect the vaccinated person. This is a haunting development and now I'm frightened. I feel like lashing out. I've developed a case of vaccine rage. I've been lied to by my government. My vaccine (were I to get one) was not only supposed to protect me, but everyone I come into contact with. Well, by God, it turns out it might not even protect me. It's infuriating.
The vaccines can be working, but with lower efficacy. Or we can have a variant that they don't work well against.
That's indeed possible. And it makes even more dubious all the things CDC is spouting out about how vaccinated people are somehow special snowflakes and only they can go around maskless. Leave alone pushing these experimental vaccines on kids and young adults at low risk. It's questionable enough in general, but if indeed there are mutants now that are infecting vaccinated people just as aggressive, it makes even less to push the vaccine on low risk Americans. The authorities should have been much smarter about identifying who was at risk who was not to begin with, just like the Swedes have and, continue to do.
The pharmaceutical companies never claimed the vaccine would stop the spread. The vaccine manufacturers' FAQ answer on transmission is "we don't know".
Btw, Moderna only good for 6 months. If you got that in January, it is expiring right about now.
There's a reason covid infections in the US are still declining even while restrictions are loosening. It's because nearly 50% of the population has now gotten a vaccine.
It’s most likely a combination of the vaccine plus over a hundred million Americans have been infected already and have natural immunity.
The virus is simply running out of hosts ... pandemics never last forever.
False.
There's a reason covid infections in the US are still declining even while restrictions are loosening. It's because nearly 50% of the population has now gotten a vaccine.
False. If you look at the levels of infections and deaths in May of last year it is pretty similar
Please wake me up when infections are less than 10000.
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