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How often would you suspect that happens? I'd say, just from my observations, almost never.
I observe women who get pregnant, and beg the man to be a part of the baby's life and come to sonogram appointments, etc.
And I know that if a woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want to be a father, she's at greatly increased risk of danger of being murdered.
How many cases have you seen, of men who want to be dads and very much want to participate in raising the child, and he's capable of being a stable parent, and the woman wants to abort?
It's not important. A man cannot force the woman to keep the child, nor can he force her to abort. To compound this, it's her body that gets pregnant, not his. In just about every aspect, from it's her body, to it's her decisions, the pregnancy is something she owns. Not the man.
And what you have that is common enough, is a woman slowly realizing the man she wants to be, doesn't want to be with her long term, so she chooses to get pregnant to keep him. When that doesn't work out too well for her - she then tries to use the courts to ruin his life. So you wonder why that pushes some man over the edge? Yeah, she was no angel either.
It's her body, she has full control over her pregnancy. It really doesn't take a man to get her pregnant, it just takes his sperm. But she has the choice from beginning to end to become pregnant, and then stay pregnant, so she needs to own the financial responsibility too.
The financial responsibility will fall to the state that forced the woman to maintain the pregnancy.
And if the father wants the child, but the mom is all set up with her abortion appointment ... the father matters right?
Ahh the personal details. You may want to be involved with her choice. I don’t. I trust she knows the situation with the father the best. Her choice trumps all, especially what I may think about it.
How often would you suspect that happens? I'd say, just from my observations, almost never.
I observe women who get pregnant, and beg the man to be a part of the baby's life and come to sonogram appointments, etc.
And I know that if a woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want to be a father, she's at greatly increased risk of danger of being murdered.
How many cases have you seen, of men who want to be dads and very much want to participate in raising the child, and he's capable of being a stable parent, and the woman wants to abort?
I'm confused. I asked if the father's opinion matters. Do you think it does? Or is all the man blaming just smokescreen? Do women really want the man to have a say?
Or just be a bank account if they decide, meh, guess I'll keep the thing.
Although I do not agree with some of Golden's assessment, his point is really clear. Are you getting it?
No one ever said that happens. It was only a point of discussion to show how we all, except one so far, believe in not allowing women to do what they want with their own bodies in reality. We put time limits and conditions on them.
Ridiculous argument. Arguing that a baby could legally be sliced and diced while still attached to the mother with the umbilical cord due to legalization of abortion, is like defending the stabbing and burning death of Isaac because god told Abraham to do it!
That's fine, she should take extra careful not to pregnant.
Unless she's a teenager, most women get pregnant by choice. We have implants these days, stick them in your arm, and you won't be pregnant for a few years (or until it's removed).
So if she's against abortion, and wants to have casual sex, get an implant, and problem solved.
But it's not her right to decide to get pregnant, that she wants to keep the kid, and the man's feelings be damned, he has to pay for me. it was her choice from beginning to end, so own it.
The man really has no transparency into any of it. He does not know her cycle, what's she on [besides what she tells him]. He's just getting his rocks off, it's her body that can become pregnant, so she needs to own that.
The tramp that wants to ensnare unsuspecting men. All the more reason to mind your own sperm. Make sure you know if the woman you sleep with would give birth or abort if you two became pregnant.
Ahh the personal details. You may want to be involved with her choice. I don’t. I trust she knows the situation with the father the best. Her choice trumps all, especially what I may think about it.
Right.
The father's opinion is irrelevant. He could have a full blown nursery set up, a nanny ready to go so he can keep working, want the child with all his heart ...
And the mother can kill they baby anyway. Thanks for the honest reply.
The father is only needed if the mother decides to keep the baby. And not because she wants a father. She just wants the bank account. Right?
The tramp that wants to ensnare unsuspecting men. All the more reason to mind your own sperm. Make sure you know if the woman you sleep with would give birth or abort if you two became pregnant.
Any man that has unprotected sex is an idiot.
Any woman the has unprotected sex is also an idiot. But a bigger one.
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