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We are in a 50 year solar minimum. The temps are projected to continue downward, which kind of pokes the AGW balloon with a big pin.
If only libs would focus on real problems, rather than imagined ones, think of what we could do!
You'd be right, except for the fact that temperatures continue to increase, global ice is melting at the rate 1.2 trillion tons per year (that takes a lotta heat)
According to NOAA's 2020 Annual Climate Report the combined land and ocean temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.13 degrees Fahrenheit ( 0.08 degrees Celsius) per decade since 1880; however, the average rate of increase since 1981 (0.18°C / 0.32°F) has been more than twice that rate.
This is what is really happening and how the information posted is misleading. You have to understand the science of what is happening to understand the nuance of this particular event. https://www.carbonbrief.org/factchec...ply-misleading
From the article:
"It should be clear by now that the modest decline in temperatures in the past few months is a normal reversion after the end of the El Niño event. It has relatively little impact on the longer-term warming trend, which is the most scientifically relevant metric of climate change."
Also from the article:
"In reality, 2014, 2015 and 2016 have been the three warmest years on record not because of a large El Niño, but because of a long-term warming trend driven by human emissions of greenhouse gases.
The modest decline in temperatures in recent months from the peak of the El Niño event is completely in line with what has happened during past large El Niño events and was expected by scientists."
Yes, you do have to understand the science. That article is over 5 years old, and is irrelevant to what is going on now. The last El Nino was over two years ago, and was a very weak event. the 2015-16 event was one of the strongest ever recorded, and easily the strongest in the past 70 years. In other words, there has been no El Nino induced "spike" that temperatures are recovering from.
You'd be right, except for the fact that temperatures continue to increase, global ice is melting at the rate 1.2 trillion tons per year (that takes a lotta heat)
As you well know, there is no real temperature record, so there is no way to know how much warmer/cooler it is today compared to 100 years ago.
And if it could be proven that the Earth is warming, there is no way to control for many of the contributing factors that influence surface temperature because no one was paying attention to them 100 years ago.
As you well know, there is no real temperature record, so there is no way to know how much warmer/cooler it is today compared to 100 years ago.
And if it could be proven that the Earth is warming, there is no way to control for many of the contributing factors that influence surface temperature because no one was paying attention to them 100 years ago.
AGW is the pseudoscientific religion of the left.
So in other words you know nothing about climate science...No wait, those are the words.
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Oh, yes you do. The Western United States has been enduring a long drought with higher than average temperatures since 2000. Some years show some improvement, but it never lasts for long.
I have the misfortune to live on a farm in the middle of drought central here in the Southwest - an area known as the Four Corners. Last year the summer rains (aka the monsoon) failed us completely. The mountains in our region received as little as 37% of their normal winter snowpack. Come this Spring, our reservoirs proved to be dangerously low. In fact, they are the lowest they have ever been in recorded history.
We have been notified to expect only a single cutting of hay this year - in normal years we get four cuttings. I have put in my usual vegetable garden, but I think it's more of an act of masochism than it is anything else. Everything will just die when the irrigation water runs out in July the way they say it will.
Just about everyone now admits that our plight is mostly the result of global warming. Each year our average temps go up by a few more tenths of a degree. Doesn't sound like much, but after twenty one years and counting, it starts to add up.
The MSM outside this region has been largely ignoring our plight. Conservatives don't want to hear about it either because then they'd have to wrap their minds around the thought that global warming is actually a reality that impacts us now.
So keep reporting on your little factoids that claim climate change doesn't exist. Me, I think I'll start posting images of the dying farms as this summer progresses.
Who ever said the climate doesn't CHANGE? Are you understanding correctly?
What is the OP said is that the narrative of WARMING isn't the case.
Who ever said the climate doesn't CHANGE? Are you understanding correctly?
What is the OP said is that the narrative of WARMING isn't the case.
The climate is always "changing" and always will.
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There has never been a greater political tool than "Global Warming."
It's a catch-all excuse to virtue signal, redistribute wealth, and grow government.
It's an absolute dream for modern liberals.
Yet another enemy of those who live off the land.
You are accusing me of having an "absolute dream" that my friends and neighbors - many of whom are descendants of the pioneers who arrived here in the 1860's - will watch their crops die in the fields because of a horrific drought.
The farmers and ranchers of SW Colorado are almost all conservatives and some of Trump's biggest fans. Do you actually believe that they would somehow fake what is happening out here and give up their farms in "order to grow government"?
Since 1901, the average surface temperature across the contiguous 48 states has risen at an average rate of 0.16°F per decade. Average temperatures have risen more quickly since the late 1970s (0.31 to 0.54°F per decade since 1979). Eight of the top 10 warmest years on record for the contiguous 48 states have occurred since 1998, and 2012 and 2016 were the two warmest years on record.
Worldwide, 2016 was the warmest year on record, 2020 was the second-warmest, and 2011–2020 was the warmest decade on record since thermometer-based observations began. Global average surface temperature has risen at an average rate of 0.17°F per decade since 1901 (see Figure 2), similar to the rate of warming within the contiguous 48 states. Since the late 1970s, however, the United States has warmed faster than the global rate.
Every part of the Southwest experienced higher average temperatures between 2000 and 2020 than the long-term average (1895–2020). Some areas were more than 2°F warmer than average.
Large portions of the Southwest have experienced drought conditions since weekly Drought Monitor records began in 2000. For extended periods from 2002 to 2005 and from 2012 to 2020, nearly the entire region was abnormally dry or even drier.
There have been long periods of geologic time when the earth's climate or the climate of some region of the earth has not undergone any appreciable change. When climate change does occur, it often happens in very small increments which allow plant and animal species to adapt in time to avoid mass extinctions. The rate of climate change since 1901 has gone on at a breakneck pace when compared to the normal rate of climate change in bygone eras.
You are accusing me of having an "absolute dream" that my friends and neighbors - many of whom are descendants of the pioneers who arrived here in the 1860's - will watch their crops die in the fields because of a horrific drought.
The farmers and ranchers of SW Colorado are almost all conservatives and some of Trump's biggest fans. Do you actually believe that they would somehow fake what is happening out here and give up their farms in "order to grow government"?
There have been long periods of geologic time when the earth's climate or the climate of some region of the earth has not undergone any appreciable change. When climate change does occur, it often happens in very small increments which allow plant and animal species to adapt in time to avoid mass extinctions. The rate of climate change since 1901 has gone on at a breakneck pace when compared to the normal rate of climate change in bygone eras.
Yes, sometimes the climate changes in very small increments, other times, it changes incredibly fast. The EPA's contention that current changes we are seeing have never happened before, simply isn't true.
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Large, abrupt climate changes have repeatedly affected much or all of the earth, locally reaching as much as 10°C [50F] change in 10 years. Available evidence suggests that abrupt climate changes are not only possible but likely in the future, potentially with large impacts on ecosystems and societies.
Recent scientific evidence shows that major and widespread climate changes have occurred with startling speed. For example, roughly half the north Atlantic warming since the last ice age was achieved in only a decade, and it was accompanied by significant climatic changes across most of the globe. Similar events, including local warmings as large as 16°C [60.8F], occurred repeatedly during the slide into and climb out of the last ice age. Human civilizations arose after those extreme, global ice-age climate jumps.
Again, these extremely wild climate shifts were not caused by man, so what makes you so sure this tiny little blip we have seen recently is caused by human activity?
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