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“I got the sense it was more important for A.C.L.U. staff to identify with clients and progressive causes than to stand on principle,” he said in a recent interview. “Liberals are leaving the First Amendment behind.”
The A.C.L.U., America’s high temple of free speech and civil liberties, has emerged as a muscular and richly funded progressive powerhouse in recent years, taking on the Trump administration in more than 400 lawsuits. But the organization finds itself riven with internal tensions over whether it has stepped away from a founding principle — unwavering devotion to the First Amendment.
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On the premise that “legal realism” will soon reach First Amendment jurisprudence, sweeping aside mechanical rules and barriers in favor of a broader, more policy-sensitive approach, critical race theorists have been tackling some of the most common policy objections to hate speech regulation, including that more speech is the best remedy for bad speech, that hate speech serves as a pressure valve relieving tension that might explode in an even more harmful manner later, and that a focus on speech fails to get at the “real problem.”
They let Hitler speak, and look what happened. Police can't stop them from speaking, but that doesn't mean the public is gonna let them spread their venom.
I agree, let the Nazis speak, so we know who they are, and let the people deal with them by driving back to where they came from.
The left's historical embrace of free speech occurred because they were culturally in the minority. As soon as the left began to sense cultural majority, they abandoned free speech principles. Likewise the right embraced free speech when it became culturally in the minority.
Free speech is the favored program of those in the cultural minority. It has nothing, and has never had anything, to do with principles, except for a few high-minded folk.
So just remember that when someone yammers on about the rightness or wrongness of their beliefs in a free speech debate. A small number of people are principled, most are just practicing realpolitik and rhetoric.
This is not really anything people haven't noticed... but it's nice for them to admit it... that the left and right have swapped positions on first amendment.. it used to be the right 40-50 years ago that were the ones who said "you can't say this" and now it's the left. It's really just herd mentality at work though. The group in power will usually try to get favoritism for their own while trying to keep the opposition at bay. Basic evolutionary drives here.
The left's historical embrace of free speech occurred because they were culturally in the minority. As soon as the left began to sense cultural majority, they abandoned free speech principles. Likewise the right embraced free speech when it became culturally in the minority.
Free speech is the favored program of those in the cultural minority. It has nothing, and has never had anything, to do with principles, except for a few high-minded folk.
So just remember that when someone yammers on about the rightness or wrongness of their beliefs in a free speech debate. A small number of people are principled, most are just practicing realpolitik and rhetoric.
Umm. Hello. That is the entire reason the constitution was written.
Unfettered democracy doesn't work. It is a form of mob rule, in which the rights of the individual needs protecting. The constitution was written to provide that safeguard.
If the entire country hates the things I say, should I still be allowed to say them?
The constitution says a resounding "YES".
"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep, voting on what to have for lunch."
This is not really anything people haven't noticed... but it's nice for them to admit it... that the left and right have swapped positions on first amendment.. it used to be the right 40-50 years ago that were the ones who said "you can't say this" and now it's the left. It's really just herd mentality at work though. The group in power will usually try to get favoritism for their own while trying to keep the opposition at bay. Basic evolutionary drives here.
refresh my memory.. when exactly was the right saying this, and concerning what, specifically?
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