NYC Mayor to bring in ATF to combat gun crimes. (weapon, crime)
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Stop and frisk is a severe violation of civil rights. People cannot just be stopped randomly and searched. People are for stop and frisk until they're the ones stopped and frisked.
"People cannot just be stopped randomly and searched." They were NOT, so STOP speading lies.
It was never "stop and frisk". That is a leftist media made up way of saying it because it acts as though police were stopping everyone and frisking them all the time. That is wildly false. The real term was stop, question and frisk. The idea was to engage in conversation to see what the "KNOWN" troublemakers were up to.
Police were never just stopping random people and frisking them. Completely false leftist media made up crap.
I will say one thing. I loved NYC when it was safe with Giuliani and then Bloomberg. Now it is a crap hole. Way too much crime and the bad element took it back over and fast. Sure didn't take long after two great mayors. Shame.
Don't confuse them with the FACTS. They can't handle them.
You will have them running back to their "safe places" with their crayons and theosophist phone number!
What other civil rights violations are you all for because they would work? Want to let police demand to randomly search everyone's house? How about we randomly stop every vehicle on a highway and do a full compartment search?
Was it a consensual stop? If the guys had refused, would the officer have detained them? If so, then that's also a civil rights violation. Now if he had heard them talking about high school homework, or prom, or something to indicate they were underage, that's different.
"What other civil rights violations are you all fo"
And again, I'll ask what other [insert justification here] do you want to "stop" by what kinds of rights violation? Where is the bar? You want to randomly subject people to a colonoscopy to ensure they're not body packing heroin? Well do we want to see a stop to senseless drug deaths or don't we?
WRONG! I can't speak for everyone, but I'm strongly against both!
For one, it isn't random. I've literally NEVER been searched by the tsa, and never will be. For two, that doesn't mean that that's right either. If I had it my way, all of tsa's blue shirts would be locked up in gitmo tomorrow with the gate welded shut behind them! Just because we're letting morons violate our rights for a long time, doesn't mean it's right, nor does it mean that we can let them do more.
So? Until their content reaches a violation of a law, they should be left alone.
Not necessarily. It's possible the officer knew the limits and would have just said "have a nice day" and not begun a non-consensual encounter.
You don't have to fight them to know your rights and stand up for them. Maybe you should browse YouTube's first amendment auditors. Most of them are pretty good. A few are nothing more than screaming idiots looking for a fight. But they demonstrate quite well how to stand up for your rights with the police without escalating anything and they always win, either during the encounter, or in court.
Wow, that's your attitude? That would go well in some place like the communists occupying China, or North Korea or Iran or some other dystopian nightmare.
"You want to randomly subject people to a colonoscopy"
Your asinine wild exaggeration are all I need to know about you!
Stop and frisk is a severe violation of civil rights. People cannot just be stopped randomly and searched. People are for stop and frisk until they're the ones stopped and frisked.
NYPD can pat me down any time they like - LOL......kinda just kidding.....sort of ......
In fact, when expanded to New York state wide, it was found that [only one in 16 arrests that resulted from Stop and Frisk served any significant jail time](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/new-analy...ow-ineffective). Only one out of every 1000 stop and frisks resulted in a weapons charge or led to a violent crime conviction. 25% were dismissed outright prior to arraignment or were considered non-criminal charges.
In short: Juries and judges tended to side towards privacy. Communities were outraged at the poor targeting of the program, with the above 'hit rates' considered very poor. And a federal monitor was called in to oversee sweeping reforms to the police department’s policy in NY.
Look at your "sources".
Mad magazine has MORE credibility then they do COMBINED!
Being you are so "good" at doing research, why not provide the REAL STATS from trh NYC police dept. and mayors office at the time.
But hey some flunky "newspaper" knows MORE then the officials involved!
Heck the SAME ones couldn't even find the infamous "blue dress" with ALL their highly trained "investigative reporters", but some unknown blogger did.
And you want us to believe they have credibility?
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