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Old 07-03-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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It’s not clear if these are Moorish sovereign citizen people, or some other offshoot of the “moors founded America” idea.

Armed guys refusing to cooperate with the police. 2 caught, 6 at large in the woods in Massachusetts.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/3209995...dangerous-men/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-men-run.html?


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...reign-citizens
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Old 07-03-2021, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Yeah, "Moorish". Right.

They have these thugs around Seattle, walking up to nice homes and telling the homeowners that they are taking possession of their homes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/so...te/ar-BB1bsipF

Gun up, America.

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Old 07-03-2021, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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This is really weird.
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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From the Sun article...

In another video, one of the members says, "We're not anti-police, we're not sovereign citizens. We're not black identity extremists.


Oops... big mistake there.
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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What do you mean, oops? They are Moors. Not blacks. You don't know the difference?
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:17 AM
 
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What do you mean, oops? They are Moors. Not blacks. You don't know the difference?
Don't you know who the protected groups of people are in this country?

They could have saved themselves by showing support for BLM Inc.

It was sarcasm... I forgot the smiley. My bad.
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Is that the 11 arrested in I-95 this weekend knd?
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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Oh no the Moops are coming. What next, puffy shirts?
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Old 07-03-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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What do you mean, oops? They are Moors. Not blacks. You don't know the difference?
Difference? Between a Moor and a Black person? Ummm, physically there is no difference. The term 'Moor" is not even in any widespread use any more. It's an historical name for N African Black Muslims. So I suppose Somalis could be called "Moors." So how is it they ae "not Blacks?" Religion and culture does not change skin tone.

Saying "they are Moors, not Blacks" is like saying "they are Christians, not Whites." Perhaps there is something I'm missing here that is being taught at some higher level of education than I have obtained but what I have learned from countless hours of devouring books since I was quite young who and what the "Moors" were/are is just what I have said. "Moor" denotes culture and religion and the Moors were Black. I have not seen the term "Moor" used in modern context. It was a Crusades era term.

However if I am indeed missing something here perhaps you will enlighten me? I am after all just a poor very rural ranch born and raised guy and spent much of my life looking at life between a horse's ears. I have however read many volumes of historical fiction and non fiction which the Moors were a part and as I said, physically a "Moor" and a "Black" person are one in the same. Please do share if there is something I have been remiss in understanding.

That being said, I don't know exactly what laws these men stand accused of violating. Other than failure to cooperate with police, evading arrest/detaining and such. And of course to many minds since they were armed that is a crime in and of itself. But it does not say anywhere exactly how they were armed. Their weapons my possibly be quite legal. But they were armed and have a non mainstream ideology so they just HAVE to be bad people.

As far as I can see here they seemed to be well within their rights as American citizens to believe as they see fit and to keep and bear arms. I am quite curious to see how this case shakes out.

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Old 07-03-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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Any extremist group can easily get their hands of firearms and cause havoc. The US has become more dangerous than Somalia! Congrats NRA supporters. Those with the biggest and most firearms will rule and it wont by you.
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