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A group of four men who said they were "sovereign citizens of the Al Moroccan Empire" took up ownership of a New Jersey home and claimed the property was rightfully theirs given their status, local police recently said.
Huber A. John, 39, was arrested on June 17 and charged with criminal mischief, burglary, criminal trespass and terroristic threats after he allegedly took over a vacant Newark, New Jersey, home with three other men, the Newark Department of Public Safety said Tuesday.
Any extremist group can easily get their hands of firearms and cause havoc. The US has become more dangerous than Somalia! Congrats NRA supporters. Those with the biggest and most firearms will rule and it wont by you.
You hoplophobes just don't get it. And your last sentence makes no sense. And the NRA has long hence sold out to the establishment in DC BTW. Those of us with any sense have shifted our support to far better organizations. Personally I'm fed up with all the insulting and demeaning rhetoric such as is in your post and far worse from hoplophobe groups and politicians. Accusing folks like me of somehow supporting criminal use of firearms.
We firearms owners do NOT see ourselves "ruling" anything (leftists can't say that) and mostly just want to be left be to live as we see fit. Extremist groups and criminals such as gangs do not obtain their firearms legally. Easily yes, legally no. It is FAR more difficult for we law abiding folks to obtain firearms because groups like the NRA have compromised with people of views such as yours to the point of being ludicrous.
Do you honestly believe that criminals and extremists jump through the hoops we honest citizens do to buy firearms? If so you really need to wake up and smell the coffee pard. The former types do NOT go to a firearms retailer, fill out a form 4473, submit to a federally mandated background check, and depending on state and municipality of residence comply with countless other requirements such as registration, license, waiting period, fingerprinting on and on it goes. And you have the unmitigated gall to blame folks like me and hundreds of millions of other people fo being complicit in criminal use of firearms. The bad guys can get whatever they want whenever they want and their sources are far different from legal folks.
Stolen military hardware and other military weapons smuggled in from overseas by the cartels gives them an inventory to choose from far more ...diverse...than what I or any legal firearms owner has access to. Firearms stolen from legal owners is a less than miniscule percentage of the weapons in criminal hand and I include extremist groups with the word "criminal." They also have access to destructive devices such as grenades, RPGs, you name it. Things you won't see on the shelf at Cabela's. Clues are whizzing by your ears in profusion. Perhaps you might actually catch one?
Despite all the myriad laws and restrictions that have been put in place that anti firearms abbit people said would "dramatically reduce gun violence" no effect has been seen. It's gotten worse because of leftist Dem border policies that allow the cartels to operate with impunity. Citizens have been disarmed almost completely in places like CA Chicago NYC and many other states and municipalities and still criminals are shooting with zeal and ease. And NO, that is NOT due to neighboring states having less restrictive laws. A resident of one state CANNOT travel to another state and buy a firearm fom a licensed dealer and just walk out with it. It does NOT work that way. That's a firearms phobic classic that is just laughable. So don't try that one. Lest I be forced to refute it and how. If you would like to see me do so just try it. Happy to oblige.
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In another video, one of the members says, "We're not anti-police, we're not sovereign citizens. We're not black identity extremists.
Oops... big mistake there.
A lot of groups like islamists, or CRT activists, or for this discussion the moorish science folks use a vocabulary that sounds like common words you understand. But they have their own definitions.
Here is how these Moors define sovereign citizens…
Moors are not ‘Sovereign Citizens’, as sovereignty does not stand alone, sovereignty and nationality can be considered synonymous. The record show that the Moors are the organic or original sovereigns of this land – America. When we declare our nationality as Moorish Americans we are taking back the position as the aboriginal people of the land, to which the sovereign power is vested in…
They go on to show how they are the original sovereigns of the US and Mexico (“… hence the Marine Corps hymn ‘From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli’…”), and as sovereigns they would never label themselves as citizens.
Like sovereign citizens they do not pay taxes nor recognize the authority of the IRS.
Moor does not mean black. The noun ‘Moor’ is a shortened variant of the word Moroccan.
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We are not black, we are Moors. Those people branded as Dominicans, Haitians, Tainos, etc. do not come from blacks, they are descendants of Moors, hence the Spanish word, Morena and Moreno.
The Moors of North America have been branded “black” by European Colonial occupiers of our land in order to strip us of our illustrious history. Our ancient Moabite, Canaanite and Hittite blood lines tie us to the Ancient Olmecs of Central Amexem (America), the Aztecs (Mexica) even the Dogon of Mali. Our ancient ancestors are the possessors of great ancient cities and kingdoms such as Sumer, Mari, Timbuktu, Carthage, Córdoba, Mauritania (North Africa) and Tamari (Egypt / Kemet). Our disconnect from recognizing our ancient blood line, nationality and heritage is the very reason why the Pale-Skin-Black-Nations-of-Europe have been administrating the earth and we have been suffering.
A lot of groups like islamists, or CRT activists, or for this discussion the moorish science folks use a vocabulary that sounds like common words you understand. But they have their own definitions.
Here is how these Moors define sovereign citizens…
They go on to show how they are the original sovereigns of the US and Mexico (“… hence the Marine Corps hymn ‘From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli’…”), and as sovereigns they would never label themselves as citizens.
Like sovereign citizens they do not pay taxes nor recognize the authority of the IRS.
Wonder if they will get the same treatment from the right as the militia out west who engaged in armed standoffs with police and took over federal buildings?
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And the NRA has long hence sold out to the establishment in DC BTW. Those of us with any sense have shifted our support to far better organizations. Personally I'm fed up with all the insulting and demeaning rhetoric such as is in your post and far worse from hoplophobe groups and politicians. Accusing folks like me of somehow supporting criminal use of firearms. 
The bad guys can get whatever they want whenever they want and their sources are far different from legal folks. 
