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Their remaining defenses notwithstanding, the record is clear that they did.
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The only way to test that is in the crucible of a trial or an evidentiary hearing,” she added, noting that the judge had thus far denied such a hearing.
You don't get to stand in the way of the truth being determined by a legitimate court proceeding and then call everyone asking for that legitimate finding of fact liars.
This is the straw man the left routinely uses to avoid discussing policy.
Everyone that has ever supported Trump knows that he has the potential to turn into a huge ass at any moment, but I'll take that every time when the alternative is a giant compliant ***** like Bush (I and II), McCain, Romney, Jeb, Kasich, or any of the rest of them.
It takes balls to stand up to the DC swamp and the lying press, and Trump was able to do that.
And as ugly and embarrassing it was for the US to go through Russia-gate, Stormy-gate, countless substance-less rape allegations and all the other attempts by the deep state and others to thwart the will of the voters, he fought them to a stand-still.
That in itself is an amazing accomplishment.
It exposed the politicized nature of our intelligence services and allowed us the opportunity to at least see our enemy.
Those that attempted to sabotage the Trump presidency (Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Strozk, Nellie and Bruce Ohr, Simpson, Mifsud, and many others) came off as cartoonish versions of true political subtours, but this was their first known attempt at a domestic coup.
With practice, they'll get better.
Oh please, trump doesn’t stand up to anyone. trump is a grade schooler whose only shtick is to throw out insults & claim victim hood. There’s no honor in being a grade school cry baby. One of these days the right will emerge from the gaslit fog they’ve willingly allowed themselves to be under.
What a demented clown show. Anyone with character & pride wouldn’t touch the train wreck that is trump. They all drown.
Oh please, trump doesn’t stand up to anyone. trump is a grade schooler whose only shtick is to throw out insults & claim victim hood. There’s no honor in being a grade school cry baby. One of these days the right will emerge from the gaslit fog they’ve willingly allowed themselves to be under.
What a demented clown show. Anyone with character & pride wouldn’t touch the train wreck that is trump. They all drown.
Everyone has flaws. No one that I know of has ever said he was perfect. Trump has the ability to bring out the worst in his opponents though. TDS, celebrities saying they thought about blowing up the white house and holding mock severed head of Trump, etc.
The people who complain the most about Trump are not perfect themselves, usually far from it. That's why America probably should have a break from Trump for awhile. 2024, everyone's crazy batteries will be recharged and the chaos can continue. It's unfortunate that this is what it takes to get necessary work done (like building a wall, securing the border, scaling down the wars without end abroad, not starting new wars, etc). But American politics is a dumpster fire of a trash heap, and Trump is not the cause of that. Simply a reaction to it.
Which is completely irrelevant.
We didn't run for/ask for anyone to vote for us for POTUS.
Trump did.
People should expect a much higher level of behavior/conduct from someone who wants to be elected POTUS than they would from 'Joe-Jane Citizen/Joe-Jane Six-Pack'.
Rather than getting maturity and levelheadedness from Trump, we got and get an infantile, narcissistic man-child.
This is the straw man the left routinely uses to avoid discussing policy.
Everyone that has ever supported Trump knows that he has the potential to turn into a huge ass at any moment, but I'll take that every time when the alternative is a giant compliant ***** like Bush (I and II), McCain, Romney, Jeb, Kasich, or any of the rest of them.
It takes balls to stand up to the DC swamp and the lying press, and Trump was able to do that.
And as ugly and embarrassing it was for the US to go through Russia-gate, Stormy-gate, countless substance-less rape allegations and all the other attempts by the deep state and others to thwart the will of the voters, he fought them to a stand-still.
That in itself is an amazing accomplishment.
It exposed the politicized nature of our intelligence services and allowed us the opportunity to at least see our enemy.
Those that attempted to sabotage the Trump presidency (Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Strozk, Nellie and Bruce Ohr, Simpson, Mifsud, and many others) came off as cartoonish versions of true political subtours, but this was their first known attempt at a domestic coup.
With practice, they'll get better.
The bolded is a deflection to deflect away from not asserting the character it would take to oppose Trump.
No matter what your registration, you could vote third party or write someone in rather than vote for Trump or any of the others you mentioned.
Admitting Trump's nature, and then indicating support, demonstrates that policy goals are more important to you than character...that the ends justify the means.
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At this point, i don't know what is true about all that anymore. But here is how i changed my view of Trump. (Trump fans are gonna treat me like they did the vice president and call me a turn coat but oh well.)
I loved Trump and I understood exactly what he meant and i found him funny, a kick-azz person that was needed and he did so much good while in office. (now look at what we have now as president and i see a huge difference).
What has changed in my attitude is the constant ranting about the past. Maybe Trump feels it is necessary. but every time i hear him, he is continuing the chaos. I think i might vote for Desantis if Desantis is the choice.. I'll probably vote Trump is he is the Repub nominee. however, i am tired of the constant ranting about the past. Even at CPAC, he continued ranting about the past election 2020.
So if Trump wins 2024, we will have more constant chaos caused by the Dems who hate him. there was so much fighting, caused by the Dems and their stubbornness and their desire to hurt people just so they could hurt Trump.
At this point, I am sick of the news at what this topic is about. and i really dont feel encouraged to vote for anyone ever. however, if i don't vote Republican the Dems will continue their hell on earth.
If anything could stop this pattern from happening, it would be nice. Also if they dont change the ability to cheat, we'll have another repeat of 2020.
It's interesting how you switch on a dime, in this post. At first you note that Trump is stirring the turds and just won't quit, and then you blame our continuing discord on the democrats.
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Everyone has flaws. No one that I know of has ever said he was perfect. Trump has the ability to bring out the worst in his opponents though. TDS, celebrities saying they thought about blowing up the white house and holding mock severed head of Trump, etc.
The people who complain the most about Trump are not perfect themselves, usually far from it. That's why America probably should have a break from Trump for awhile. 2024, everyone's crazy batteries will be recharged and the chaos can continue. It's unfortunate that this is what it takes to get necessary work done (like building a wall, securing the border, scaling down the wars without end abroad, not starting new wars, etc). But American politics is a dumpster fire of a trash heap, and Trump is not the cause of that. Simply a reaction to it.
Much more destructively, Trump has the ability to bring out the worst in his friends.
His opponents? The other candidates he was in the race for president with? They looked like paragons of maturity and normalcy when in contact with him.
The goofballs that stormed the capitol on Jan. 6, and the buffoons who took on his legal case of election fraud claims . . . for all those people, his friends, those were their worst hours. Legal careers ruined right and left, and hundreds awaiting prison time who probably never had a felony charge before.
You don't get to stand in the way of the truth being determined by a legitimate court proceeding and then call everyone asking for that legitimate finding of fact liars.
That's not how law works. A lawyer doesn't get to submit an affidavit that his witness saw two aliens from Jupiter's moons beam down 10,000 extra ballots and then insist that the full force of the US legal system be used to prove him wrong.
And a whole lot of the "evidence" they produced had been turned down as rooted in ignorance of the process by a lower court. But hey, thy tried submitting it again - it's not as if anyone woud notice, right? Judges just love that sort of stuff.
There's a reason these guys are running away from Sidney Powell as far as they can and as fast as they can. She has the speaker gigs at the Q gatherings and OAN. They're just trying to retain their law licenses right now.
I'm glad we can agree here, but you also have to realize (if you don't know already) that there are millions of MAGA cheerleaders who literally believe Trump does not have flaws and will refuse to entertain any notion of such when any potential flaw Trump might have is pointed out to them. It's also one reason why so many still believe Trump won because to them if Trump said it, then it has to be true.
Rather, because they witnessed things like observers being dismissed and thousands of votes for Biden* suddenly appearing in the very early morning hours. Also, a sycophantic media that brazenly lies for their Democrat masters, defends looting and rioting, and goes out of it's way to silence dissident voices.
There's more than enough reason to question this "election."
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