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Old 07-20-2021, 11:59 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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You forgot the part about how that 2.5 million acres burned this year is over 800,000 less than the 10 year to date average. So far less acreage has burned this year (again, to date) than burned in 2018, 17, 16, 15, 12, and 2011. In 2015 and 2011, more than twice the acreage had burned by July 19.
https://www.nifc.gov/fire-informatio...tics/wildfires

You could write for those fear mongers at The Guardian.
And you should work in the propaganda department of the Heartland Institute. You are comparing the complete set of statistics for an entire fire year with an incomplete set of statistics for 2021 - a fire year that still has many months to go. You even admit that your stats are "to date" but you're hoping we will skip over this inconsistency because we are so dazzled by your (fake) numbers.

From USA Today:

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The number of fires that have burned nationally by this time of year is the largest in a decade, with over 33,000 fires scorching upwards of 1.9 million acres by July 12, according to the National Interagency Fire Center.

The fires have forced evacuations in numerous areas amid a deadly heat wave and an intense drought. Some burned homes and other structures have been observed but total losses were still being tallied.

"Based on last year, we're off to a really bad start. And last year was a record year," said Glen MacDonald, geography professor at UCLA.

The potential of bad wildfires "will expand as we move through the summer, even greater in the northern tier up through Oregon, Washington, Montana, Idaho" and California, he said.

Here's a roundup of the biggest fires now, and how they stack up in history:

California wildfires outpacing 2020's historic season

More than a dozen fires are burning in parts of the state, ranging from a couple of acres to nearly 90,000.

The largest this year in the state, the Beckwourth Complex covered 89,748 acres on Northern California’s border with Nevada. Plumas National Forest officials said firefighters successfully contained almost a quarter of the blaze but still expected some extreme fire activity. Evacuation orders were in effect for more than 3,000 residents.

The number of wildfires in the Golden State is so far is outpacing averages and even last year's historic fire season.
Between Jan. 1 and July 4, there were 4,599 fires that scorched 114.8 square miles in California. During the same timeframe last year, there were 3,847 fires that blackened 48.6 square miles.

California's wildfires off to 'a daunting start': currently outpacing historic 2020 season.

In Washington, expert warns of possible 'catastrophic' events

In Washington, the Batterman Road Fire has consumed more than 14,000 acres and 55,000 acres have been burned by the Asotin Complex Fire.

Washington is also no stranger to wildfires, with more than 800,000 acres burned in 2020. Experts say this year may be significantly worse.

"It doesn't take much for us to have a major catastrophic event," Department of Natural Resources Fuels Analyst Vaugn Cork told KREM-TV. "This could be catastrophic."

To date in 2021, there have been 630 wildfires, nearly double the ten-year average in the state, according to DNR statistics.

High temperatures and wildfires in Montana

At least 10 major wildland fires continued to burn across Montana Monday, following weeks of daytime highs in the 90s and little to no rain.

But the current wildfire preparedness level in state is the highest on record this early in the season, according to CBS-6.

More wildfires expected in Idaho

In Idaho, Gov. Brad Little declared a wildfire emergency Friday and mobilized the state’s National Guard to help fight fires sparked after lightning storms swept across the drought-stricken region.

Two major wildfires are burning across the area where Idaho, Oregon and Washington meet, including the Dry Gulch Fire at 55,000 acres and the Snake River Complex at 54,000.

Jared Jablonski, a Bureau of Land Management spokesperson for the Boise district, told KREM-TV that he wouldn’t be surprised to see more fires in 2021, up from the 944 fires last year...

Wildfires in British Columbia, too

Across the Canadian province, firefighters are battling a historic 300,000 blazes, sparked in large part by the excessive heat there that has claimed the lives of over 700 people, according to CBC.
(emphasis my own)

Now, as you were saying...
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Because al gore told people their is a climate change, and it became a thing. When I was a child it was the earth is cooling down and will be going into a new ice age..
So who was right? Gore or what you heard as a kid?
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by dozerbear View Post
You forgot the part about how that 2.5 million acres burned this year is over 800,000 less than the 10 year to date average. So far less acreage has burned this year (again, to date) than burned in 2018, 17, 16, 15, 12, and 2011. In 2015 and 2011, more than twice the acreage had burned by July 19.
https://www.nifc.gov/fire-informatio...tics/wildfires

You could write for those fear mongers at The Guardian.
Uh It is only mid July and fire season has a long way to go still. The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection says fire season is starting earlier and ending later each year across the West Coast.

https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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Pretty arrogant to suggest that someone has the ability to stop climate change. Well, it does make for a good extortion plan. When Algore, Obama, and the Chinese walk, sail, bike, or swim as their exclusive transportation methodology and get rid of their massive carbon footprint mansions, I'll take them serious that drastic measures may help things.
A d quit using their private jets, huge mansions and large cars.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:14 PM
 
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There was a heatwave that happened in the 1400’s. It’s happened before
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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It is all just weather.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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It is all just weather.
Yes, amazing how it gets so hot in summer and so cold in winter. Maybe if it gets 100 degrees in January and 10 below 0 and snowing in July I would begin to worry.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Why are you wondering what it will take for those kinds of people to accept that the climate is changing? Why waste precious time caring about the acceptance of people like that? Seriously, what difference will it make if they accept it or not?

Even when it finally slaps them in the face personally and has them all running for the hills for their own lives it's not as if they're going to actually DO anything effective to fend for themselves or anyone else or for the environment. They're just going to keep on making up excuses, pointing fingers and blindly running away from it with blinkers on, like they've been doing all along.

They don't care about you. So why care anything about them at all, or about what they accept?

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Yes I know all that, but I'm just a curious fellow. I'm thinking they may be like the proverbial frog in a pot of water on the stove...Heat the water slowly enough and the frog dies.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Well yes...governments around the world think they can change the climate. All we need to do is give them money, lots of money and they will make all this bad weather go away.
You've giving them money? I haven't given them a dime...That is an old tired and worn out argument.
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:32 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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And raising my taxes is totally gonna fix it.....right?????
I just got off the phone with Climate Czar Kerry. You can rest assured he is gassing up his jet and heading straight up there.
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