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Old 07-22-2021, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
No, the point is that there doesn’t need to be any equating. It should never get to the point where what you’re pointing out should even be considered.

We’re not talking about behavior in a public library, but rather someone’s personal residence.

You think that the homeowner not being reciprocal is rude. I think asserting that it should even get to the point where that would be a consideration is rude.
Biden is bringing Covid over the border to our home... so what is the difference?

 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:33 PM
 
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First of all I don’t think it’s anyone’s business and plus I don’t feel like wearing a dam mask(and plus they don’t work) while working. Personally i think this getting out of hand...were we wrong to lie?
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So by your logic in the future if go into any customers home... should I start asking if they have any contagious diseases since I may have a comprised immune system . If I start asking questions like that I’ll be out business in no time.
If you are in their home, it doggoned well is their business. You essentially entered their home under false pretenses. You might as well have been lying about your credentials to do business.

And as well, you'd be in your right to wear a mask for your own protection.

In fact, my business takes me into other people's homes--where I wear a mask without being asked--and it brings other people into my home--where I require them to be masked.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:36 PM
 
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No it isn't, at all the same thing as making the plumber remove his shoes while you wear yours. Not the same thing at all.

To make it the same thing, the plumber would have to remove his shoes but when the homeowner goes over to the plumber's house, he won't remove his own shoes.

THAT's the same thing.

The mask thing is about each person's health. And it doesn't matter "who's paying", that the plumber should be subject to a serious virus that the homeowner isn't willing to reciprocate to protect him from.
It’s about what is paramount.

It’s your opinion that it’s ‘about health’.

If the homeowner isn’t violating any health laws, or interim policies with the force of law, then it’s your opinion that it’s ‘about health’ vs the homeowner’s opinion that’s it isn’t…..and……on the contrary, it isn’t a matter of opinion whether the homeowner has domain over his/her house vs, someone hired to work on the house who hasn’t done the work yet.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
It’s about what is paramount.

It’s your opinion that it’s ‘about health’.

If the homeowner isn’t violating any health laws, or interim policies with the force of law, then it’s your opinion that it’s ‘about health’ vs the homeowner’s opinion that’s it isn’t…..and……on the contrary, it isn’t a matter of opinion whether the homeowner has domain over his/her house vs, someone hired to work on the house who hasn’t done the work yet.
Someone hired to work in another person's home doesn't have to do it, at their perceived peril. They can decide to leave and not complete the work.

And yes, this is about health. The example I gave earlier was about getting dirt on the homeowner's floors, which is ABSOLUTELY up to the homeowner to decide who wears shoes in their own home. It can absolutely be an unequal balance, and the plumber can have to remove his shoes while the homeowner wears his.

Masks and vaccines are different, which are both about the health of the homeowner and the contractor.

The homeowner doesn't have the right to withhold vaccine info and not wear a mask, while requiring a mask be worn by the contractor.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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OP, that was really bad form. They may have some autoimmune disease they're concerned about and you may have carried something into their home.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand people who take a stand based on what they consider moral or ethical grounds - and then do something that is neither moral or ethical.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:50 PM
 
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This thread is now 20 pages long. It was 16 when I started reading it. I'm not going to wait to post until I've read every damn post first.

At first I thought you said *you* were 16 when you started reading it.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:51 PM
 
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Exactly. If they are vaccinated they shouldn't worry.
I swear, you folks are astonishingly pernicious individuals.

A question was asked in someone’s PRIVATE residence and you guys are so hard up OR greedy for a buck that you’ll lie to a customer instead of standing on your principles.

If you’re an anti vaxxer, then stand on that belief even if you go broke doing it. Don’t lie and endanger others just because you don’t have courage of your convictions. Don’t be a contrarian coward.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Just West of Wonder
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First of all I don’t think it’s anyone’s business and plus I don’t feel like wearing a dam mask(and plus they don’t work) while working. Personally i think this getting out of hand...were we wrong to lie?
Not very honorable of you to do that. I for one would never lie about a virus, that’s the best way to meet karma. Good luck.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:52 PM
 
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Weak debate.
Nope

You just can’t refute my points.

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Fact is many people put pressure on getting a bill passed to get the govenment up and running .. no money means no paycheck.. you know that as well as I do
^^^^^ That’s irrelevant.

If showing that being fiscally conservative as a principle had been important enough to him, then he would have vetoed each of those bills.

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Pelosi is a snake.
Yes, she is.

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I remember she wouldn't even negotiate and left the bill and no one was getting paid...so stop with the garbage..
Principle is principle, and it was either there at that time or it wasn’t…..up to Trump….and it wasn’t.
 
Old 07-22-2021, 08:54 PM
 
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First of all I don’t think it’s anyone’s business and plus I don’t feel like wearing a dam mask(and plus they don’t work) while working. Personally i think this getting out of hand...were we wrong to lie?
That's kind of despicable. I hope you remember this if someday a worker causes damage to your home because he lied and told you he was licensed, or anything similar when you trusted someone to be a decent, truthful person.

I'm guessing that you strongly object to the possibility of people being required to carry proof-of-vaccination cards, or something like that, right? Well, if that happens, it's because of people like you, who are untrustworthy, and lie.
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