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Old 12-05-2021, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by Rocko20 View Post
Since when did people need permission to take Plan B?
If a state outlaws abortion, it would be outlawing Plan B. Duh!

 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
So is driving drunk when there's a subsequent accident that kills or injures the driver and/or others. Actions have consequences. 95% of all unintended pregnancies are due to the failure to use birth control (54%) or using it incorrectly/inconsistently (41%). Women are voluntarily CHOOSING to accept pregnancy as a possible outcome when they CHOOSE to participate in a sex act that may result in pregnancy without using contraception correctly.

It is NOT something that "just happens." Any resulting pregnancy is the self-inflicted consequence of their own actions. I cannot make that any more clear. Killing another human because it's an "inconvenience" is beyond depraved. It's barbaric.
Poppy ****.

Pregnancy is not an inconvenience. It's a life altering event.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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If a state outlaws abortion, it would be outlawing Plan B. Duh!
Are you unaware that Plan B is NOT abortion?

If so you have no business in this conversation. At all.

Please educate yourself.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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It will be interesting to see how many states that decide to ban abortion will still permit the sale of Plan B. As I understand it, Plan B is not really an abortion - it prevents the fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus. I'm not sure how that is ethically different, but I can see many states making that distinction to address the potential blowback regarding rape, etc.
Some people see a fertilized egg as a "person." So Plan B would be prohibited in that case.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:20 PM
 
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How does that prohibit discussing contraception and disease prevention? It doesn't. You just can't demonstrate how to apply a condom. And I would hope not as doing so would require a sexually mature male to expose his erect genitals to the class.
Insanity lol.

Models of genitals could be used. Or pictures.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Given that 0.3% of all abortions are sought as the result of rape, that number is only 2,100. Out of 700,000 abortions performed each year.
Thank you for clarifying that. I assumed it was just under 1%.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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That’s your pro-abortion argument?
It was a response to your claim that using a condom is not rocket science.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:24 PM
 
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I know, these pro-abortion types are just grasping at straws trying to defend killing an unborn human being. If one doesn't know how to use a condom properly then don't have sex. Same goes for any other type of birth control. Ignorance is no excuse.
People frequently don't know what they don't know. That includes everyone from idiot to genius IQ.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
Some people see a fertilized egg as a "person." So Plan B would be prohibited in that case.
Stop spreading patently false information. YOU are part of the problem.

Plan B is not abortion. People who believe this are ignorant of Plan B and it’s use. Please don’t talk about this if you don’t even know the difference.

God damn it I sure am tired of fools trying to debate this topic.
 
Old 12-05-2021, 12:25 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Bananas are a popular approach to demonstrating without using genitalia.
Which is allowable, per MS law, as that's not "demonstrating how a condom is applied." Bananas don't use condoms.
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