Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:32 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
17,776 posts, read 7,012,904 times
Reputation: 16693

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
1. Plenty of people who are pro-choice aren't liberals.

2. Being pro-choice doesn't make someone a pro-abortion activist.
On number 2, being pro-choice means you don’t mind if other people kill their unborn children. That’s immoral and reprehensible.

 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:43 AM
 
15,589 posts, read 7,620,110 times
Reputation: 19473
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
They should have thought about all of that before getting pregnant and prevented it.
That doesn't always work out, especially in cases of rape or incest. or birth control failure. Or the man removes the condom without telling the woman. Or, like friends of ours whose 4th child came along after a tubal ligation failure. Or my cousin who got pregnant while on the pill because the doctor didn't bother to tell her that the antibiotics he prescribed might reduce the effect and allow her to get pregnant. You make it sound like every woman who gets pregnant did something wrong.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:44 AM
 
15,589 posts, read 7,620,110 times
Reputation: 19473
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
That's unconstitutional as all persons are not treated equally under such laws. Only some but not others are allowed to kill another human life.
Once again, you are completely and utterly wrong. Repeating this garbage doesn't make it true, it only shows your ignorance of the law.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:46 AM
 
15,589 posts, read 7,620,110 times
Reputation: 19473
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Fetal homicide laws have already set the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life.
Again, you conveniently pick and choose and ignore the fact that every fetal homicide law has an exception for abortion. Do you think repeating a lie often enough will make it true?
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,322 posts, read 45,057,338 times
Reputation: 13792
Quote:
Originally Posted by WRM20 View Post
That doesn't always work out, especially in cases of rape or incest. or birth control failure. Or the man removes the condom without telling the woman. Or, like friends of ours whose 4th child came along after a tubal ligation failure. Or my cousin who got pregnant while on the pill because the doctor didn't bother to tell her that the antibiotics he prescribed might reduce the effect and allow her to get pregnant. You make it sound like every woman who gets pregnant did something wrong.
Here's the thing about "rights"... If states can regulate/restrict gun rights, and they do, they can regulate/restrict abortion. Keeping and bearing arms is a specifically enumerated Constitutional Right. Abortion is only a "perceived" right.

It's either one or the other. Either states are allowed to regulate/restrict rights, or they're not. Can't have it both ways.

For comparison purposes, in regards to gun rights and the right to an abortion, BOTH of which states CAN regulate/restrict: There are 32,000 gun deaths per year. There are 700,000 abortion deaths per year.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:51 AM
 
63,111 posts, read 29,298,121 times
Reputation: 18669
Quote:
Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
Potential to be a human.

You and I disagree.
The cells are human cells.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,322 posts, read 45,057,338 times
Reputation: 13792
Quote:
Originally Posted by WRM20 View Post
Once again, you are completely and utterly wrong.
No, I'm correct. Fetal homicide laws allow only some but not others to kill another human life. That's unconstitutional as it's unequal treatment under the law.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 06:52 AM
 
63,111 posts, read 29,298,121 times
Reputation: 18669
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moving415 View Post
Right as if men had nothing to do with it. Please. Okay, since I"m posting, stupidity here has again eached fever pitch. I so hate when this happens.
So since it is the woman who gets pregnant she doesn't have the responsibility to make sure she is using birth control so she won't get pregnant? It's not the man that gets pregnant.

Last edited by Oldglory; 12-07-2021 at 08:01 AM..
 
Old 12-07-2021, 07:37 AM
 
11,185 posts, read 6,526,463 times
Reputation: 4628
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
No, I'm correct. Fetal homicide laws allow only some but not others to kill another human life. That's unconstitutional as it's unequal treatment under the law.
It would be helpful if one of these days you'd offer a court case, law journal article, anything, to support your opinion. Fetal homicide laws have been challenged in court. Show where any of those challenges used your argument that having an exception for abortions violates the equal protection clause.
 
Old 12-07-2021, 07:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,322 posts, read 45,057,338 times
Reputation: 13792
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
It would be helpful if one of these days you'd offer a court case, law journal article, anything, to support your opinion.
Sure, here you go...

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." - 14th Amendment, US Constitution

Either anyone can kill an unborn child, or no one can. Can't have it both ways.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top