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Old 12-15-2021, 12:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WRM20 View Post
Given that it's none of my business whether a woman has an abortion, no. It's none of your business either.
Killing another human life IS society's business. That's why murder is illegal. That's why killing others while drunk driving is illegal. That's why killing others while texting when driving is illegal. You should be ashamed that you don't give a crap that so many other humans are killed just because of colossal irresponsibility.

 
Old 12-15-2021, 12:03 PM
 
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1. False analogy.
2. What other women decide to do in a situation of unwanted pregnancy is none of your business. Let me repeat, none.
Roe v Wade disagrees with you:

"We repeat, however, that the State does have an important and legitimate interest in preserving and protecting the health of the pregnant woman, whether she be a resident of the State or a non-resident who seeks medical consultation and treatment there,[b] and that it has still another important and legitimate interest in protecting the potentiality of human life." The decision also uses the term 'prenatal life.'

By 'the State,' the Court meant Texas, NY, Mississippi, CA. and all the other States. Though you don't think conditions under which a prenatal life can be legally terminated is a society's business, our states are governed in part by people who do have an important and legitimate interest in potential human life, prenatal life.
 
Old 12-15-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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Only 5% of all unintended pregnancies are due to actual birth control failure. Given that, would you be good with making abortion legal only for that 5%?
How do you propose that law could be policed?
 
Old 12-15-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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How do you propose that law could be policed?
Same way child neglect due to drug use is policed.
 
Old 12-15-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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Same way child neglect due to drug use is policed.
In walks the police State ...

Roe v Wade and the New Jane Crow: Reproductive Rights in the Age of Mass Incarceration

"In a majority of the cases we documented, however, women went to term and gave birth to children who had no reported health problems. These women, pregnant and alleged to have used an illegal drug or alcohol, were arrested for such crimes as child (fetal) endangerment and delivery of drugs to a minor through the umbilical cord. Women have been arrested while still pregnant, taken straight from the hospital in handcuffs, and sometimes shackled around the waist and at the ankles. They have been arrested shortly after giving birth and while still dressed only in hospital garb. Pregnant women have been held in jails, prisons, and under house arrest. At least one woman who was still pregnant at the time of arrest was shackled during much of her labor."
 
Old 12-15-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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1. False analogy.
2. What other women decide to do in a situation of unwanted pregnancy is none of your business. Let me repeat, none.
It's all of our businesses when human beings are killed. Don't want to get pregnant then use birth control prior to sex. Why is that so hard for you and yours to understand?
 
Old 12-15-2021, 04:33 PM
 
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Killing another human life IS society's business. That's why murder is illegal. That's why killing others while drunk driving is illegal. That's why killing others while texting when driving is illegal. You should be ashamed that you don't give a crap that so many other humans are killed just because of colossal irresponsibility.
They aren't humans yet, any more than an egg is a chicken. They have potential to become a human. Plus, it's not my business or yours what a woman and her doctor decide is an appropriate medical treatment.
 
Old 12-15-2021, 04:34 PM
 
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Same way child neglect due to drug use is policed.
So only women who use hormonally based contraceptives will be allowed to get abortions?

Too stupid to discuss.
 
Old 12-15-2021, 04:43 PM
 
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It's all of our businesses when human beings are killed. Don't want to get pregnant then use birth control prior to sex. Why is that so hard for you and yours to understand?
Agreed, when said human is born. Lives and breathes on its own. As mentioned before birth control isn’t 100 percent.
 
Old 12-15-2021, 05:29 PM
 
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They aren't humans yet, any more than an egg is a chicken. They have potential to become a human. Plus, it's not my business or yours what a woman and her doctor decide is an appropriate medical treatment.
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They aren't humans yet, any more than an egg is a chicken.
The egg hasn't come in contact with a rooster, thus the reason it is still just an egg. The one's that have come in contact with a rooster have a baby chick inside of it. just saying ...
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