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Abortion is control. It says you have no other choice but to kill your unborn child and carry the death of that child with you forever till the day you die. Trust society is okay with that, especially when it comes to poor women whom they believe will only give birth to more children in poverty. Rather than fix the reason for the choice, they give to them no other options.
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Originally Posted by Blondy
No one is controlling women and making them have abortions.
Most women are not agonizing until they day they die over their choice to abort. That's just you projecting onto other women what you want them to feel. Research shows most women feel nothing but relief that they are able to obtain a safe and legal abortion when they want to.
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Originally Posted by Blondy
No one is controlling women and making them have abortions.
When women are out of options, and there are no other options, that's control. btw: adoptions act the same way. Its a callous thought that women are giving up their children willingly.
Women have much bigger issues than abortion. When addressed the need for an abortion will become obsolete. The choice may remain, but the necessity for the procedure eradicated. We have some strong women writing laws today, that are going to make sure of it. 30 percent of the nation’s state legislators are women, as are nearly 27 percent of the Members of Congress. Women have come along way over the last 50 years and they're not done yet.
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Most women are not agonizing until they day they die over their choice to abort.
Tell that to my friend, who never got over it. The pregnancy that followed, the baby was still born; she blamed herself; felt she was being punished. She is not alone.
Ah, the famous rape and incest victim argument, very predictable.
I'm done arguing this.
You either care about life, or you don't. Abortion stops a heartbeat. Murder in my book.
Simple. Abortion is self- defense. The right to privacy is the right to determine one's own bodily autonomy. It is not primarily about killing the fetus even though that is the unfortunate side effect.
Roe v Wade stated the right to privacy is not unlimited. At a point during pregnancy the States' legitimate and important interest in protecting potential human life, prenatal life, can be weighed against the woman's limited right to privacy.
If you're comparing having an abortion to using deadly force to protect oneself from great bodily harm or death, I suppose you'd legalize abortion up to birth since there's a risk to the woman of gbh or death throughout the process.
Wrong thread, and I've wavered back and forth with this one for a long time.
Either all life is precious or only some? Ok to abort in case of rape or incest? Qualifying some pregnancy as ok to abort but not other? Killing a convict ok? Either life is precious to you or it isn’t. Can’t really have it both ways without sounding subjectively judgmental.
Roe v Wade stated the right to privacy is not unlimited. At a point during pregnancy the States' legitimate and important interest in protecting potential human life, prenatal life, can be weighed against the woman's limited right to privacy.
If you're comparing having an abortion to using deadly force to protect oneself from great bodily harm or death, I suppose you'd legalize abortion up to birth since there's a risk to the woman of gbh or death throughout the process.
Too late to ask women to compromise with restrictions.
That ship has sailed. Women did live with restrictions.
It is never enough and the screeching far right cannot be compromised with.
So called pro-lifers have overplayed their hand. Don't expect there will not be a backlash when you go too far.
Criminal law? The founding fathers adhered to the philosophy of Natural Law --- there is not [a] right to privacy in nature.
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I'm finding the pro-abortion/pro-choice contingent's argument that one can harm and/or kill another whenever they want as long as they do it in private to be grotesquely absurd.
It only works if a person can get by with it ... what I find interesting is that we are suppose to be a civilized culture; turns out, not so much.
That doesn't change my response: that makes them (fetal homicide laws) unconstitutional as it allows some but not others to kill another human life solely for the sake of their own convenience. Either anyone can kill an unborn child at will, or no one can.
It only works if a person can get by with it ... what I find interesting is that we are suppose to be a civilized culture; turns out, not so much.
Civilized people mind their own business. A certain segment of American society was apparently raised by wolves and does not understand this basic premise of civilization.
Ah, the famous rape and incest victim argument, very predictable.
I'm done arguing this.
You either care about life, or you don't. Abortion stops a heartbeat. Murder in my book.
An embryo is not a person, is not a life, is not viable, and therefore abortion is not murder. The woman has a right to her own body.
I prefer abortion not happen, but I don't have, nor does anyone else have, the right to demand and control what a woman does with her body.
Telling you would not address the issue of abortion and rape or incest. Why would that be?
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