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I think I can settle some fears of election theft. Biden outperformed Hillary in the majority of states and therefore this would carry over into the swing states too. Was there mass cheating in almost every state?
I will select non-swing states at random and compare the 2016 to 2020 results.
The 2016 result is always first and 2020 second.
Alaska Trump +47K, Trump +36K
Indiana Trump +524K, Trump +487
Iowa Trump +147K, Trump +138K
Massachusetts +904K Hillary, Biden +1,215K
Minnesota +45K Hillary, Biden +233K
Mississippi Trump +215K, Trump +216K
Missouri Trump +523K, +465K Trump
Montana Trump +102K, Trump +99K
Nebraska Trump +211K, Trump +182K
New Jersey Hillary +546K, Biden +725K
North Dakota +123K Trump, +121K Trump
Oregon Hillary +220K, Biden 382K
Tennessee Trump +653K, +709K Trump
Texas Trump +798K, Trump +631K
West Virginia +301K Trump, +209K Trump
I chose 15 states at random. Biden outperformed Hillary in 13 of the 15 states. The 2 states that Trump outperformed in 2020 in were by small margins. Biden tended to outperform Hillary by large margins.
Surely it is possible some cheating occurred both ways, but the overwhelming trend of the 2020 election was that Trump made many people angry who showed up and gave Biden a bigger performance than Hillary had in the clear majority of states.
A lot of my "democrat" friends sat out the Hillary cycle but Trump was so infuriating that they dropped their reservations and realized that Trump just had to go and voted accordingly.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Voting laws were relaxed and ignored. Mail-in voting ballots were sent to millions of people who no longer lived where the ballot was sent. Big tech and news media went all-in repressing anything that made Biden look bad and massively exaggerating everything that made Trump look bad. The obvious fact was that 2020 was a game where whoever was the best cheater would win. The Democrats cheated in every conceivable way. They won. Simple as that.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Voting laws were relaxed and ignored. Mail-in voting ballots were sent to millions of people who no longer lived where the ballot was sent. Big tech and news media went all-in repressing anything that made Biden look bad and massively exaggerating everything that made Trump look bad. The obvious fact was that 2020 was a game where whoever was the best cheater would win. The Democrats cheated in every conceivable way. They won. Simple as that.
Voting laws were exactly the same when Trump won. Please stop trying to justify that his loss was because of cheating. He was given a chance and blew it so the majority voted him out. I have no idea why some can’t understand that.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton.
It’s easy to explain. A majority of the voters don’t believe that BS. Your side no longer has credibility.
Biden got 12 million more votes than obama yet obama was the winner in 689 counties(22%) of the 3,143 counties. Joe won in just 477 counties. 15% of the total US counties. One would expect Joe to have carried more counties when compared to obama due to the significant increase in vote totals. The lower number of counties won defies statistics. While it's possible, it's highly unlikely. That's why claims of fraud exist. A very small number of counties with incredible vote totals for 1 candidate.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Voting laws were relaxed and ignored. Mail-in voting ballots were sent to millions of people who no longer lived where the ballot was sent. Big tech and news media went all-in repressing anything that made Biden look bad and massively exaggerating everything that made Trump look bad. The obvious fact was that 2020 was a game where whoever was the best cheater would win. The Democrats cheated in every conceivable way. They won. Simple as that.
Trump fits what you said that I'm sure you directed at Biden.
I just think more people voted due to the voting laws being relaxed. I just don't want Arizona who has had no problem with mail-in votes until Republicans lost in 2018 and again 2020, doesn't change it due to partisan reasons.
Biden got 12 million more votes than obama yet obama was the winner in 689 counties(22%) of the 3,143 counties. Joe won in just 477 counties. 15% of the total US counties. One would expect Joe to have carried more counties when compared to obama due to the significant increase in vote totals. The lower number of counties won defies statistics. While it's possible, it's highly unlikely. That's why claims of fraud exist. A very small number of counties with incredible vote totals for 1 candidate.
all that proves is that voters are more polarized than ever. But it's irrelevant because counties don't vote, individual voters do. The reality is that there are millions more people in the counties that Biden won, so it doesn't matter that he won fewer counties, he won 8 million more votes divided among states that gave him an Electoral College victory by the exact same margin Trump claimed was a landslide in 2016.
Why? 3 am truckloads of fraudulent ballots in a select handful of swing states where mass cheating could make a difference. Mail in ballots that could not be verified were a guaranteed plus for leftist, it almost was a invitation to cheat.
The coup was carried out in a small number of states....Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona. These states were the ones that made a difference and these states are where the leftists cheated. Nothing the leftists say will ever convince me that our current government is legitimate. As far as I am concerned the leftist government in Washington has no right to rule at all. It is 100 percent illegitimate.
all that proves is that voters are more polarized than ever. But it's irrelevant because counties don't vote, individual voters do. The reality is that there are millions more people in the counties that Biden won, so it doesn't matter that he won fewer counties, he won 8 million more votes divided among states that gave him an Electoral College victory by the exact same margin Trump claimed was a landslide in 2016.
Remember how he carried those election maps with him everywhere he went for months after the election, pulling them out in front of other politicians and foreign heads of state, and bragging about his "landslide" victory? Like the crowd size at the inauguration, it was highly embarrassing to watch the president of your country to go on and on about it like a child, but that's what he is.
But now that Biden won by the exact same electoral margin the Trump supporters claim it was a "narrow" victory (or a loss!) even though he won the popular vote by a much higher margin that Clinton did in 2016.
They live in an alternate reality.
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