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Old 08-05-2021, 05:10 PM
 
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DeSantis is amazing -- he's breaking his own record for daily COVID cases. He's leading the way in the USA....WTG DeSantis.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:11 PM
 
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That isn't true at all and there is enough oxygen.
Exact quote from Becker's Hospital Review, a non-partisan medical publication: "Florida hospitals struggling to get oxygen"

"Florida hospitals are struggling to get enough oxygen to treat their COVID-19 patients as virus cases surge because of the delta variant, Bloomberg reported Aug. 4."

I don't have to spin it because it speaks for itself. There are spot shortages because DeSantis declined to declare an emergency, which would have sped up the transportation and procurement issues needed to solve the issue.

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That poster has repeatedly spread misinformation and has had his thread zapped for being based on a lie. It's almost as if he has an agenda.
I just proved Starglow wrong, which makes your post about me disinformation. What's your agenda?
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Florida had over 20,000 new cases today, 7 day moving average at 17,000 and hospitals filling up and back to cancelling elective surgeries. They are at the same level they were back in January setting record highs in infections, more than Texas and CA combined. Yet here he is blocking CDC guidelines, so what's his plan to address the surge.
Exactly how is he blocking CDC guidelines? Vaccines are available for people who want them, people can wear masks if they choose to do so plus the average COVID patient is now younger and recovers faster with newer treatment options being used. You can't mandate your way out of this situation and people are going to do what they want to do anyway.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:19 PM
 
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Exact quote from Becker's Hospital Review, a non-partisan medical publication: "Florida hospitals struggling to get oxygen"

"Florida hospitals are struggling to get enough oxygen to treat their COVID-19 patients as virus cases surge because of the delta variant, Bloomberg reported Aug. 4."

I don't have to spin it because it speaks for itself. There are spot shortages because DeSantis declined to declare an emergency, which would have sped up the transportation and procurement issues needed to solve the issue.



I just proved Starglow wrong, which makes your post about me disinformation. What's your agenda?
You didn't prove Starglow wrong, from the Bloomberg artcle:

There is “plenty of oxygen, just not in the right area,†Brig. Gen. David Sanford, a member of the Health and Human Services Department Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response targeting team
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:20 PM
 
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Exact quote from Becker's Hospital Review, a non-partisan medical publication: "Florida hospitals struggling to get oxygen"

"Florida hospitals are struggling to get enough oxygen to treat their COVID-19 patients as virus cases surge because of the delta variant, Bloomberg reported Aug. 4."

I don't have to spin it because it speaks for itself. There are spot shortages because DeSantis declined to declare an emergency, which would have sped up the transportation and procurement issues needed to solve the issue.

I just proved Starglow wrong, which makes your post about me disinformation. What's your agenda?
No you didn't prove anything because I said there were transportation concerns, but hospitals still are not out of oxygen as you claim.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:21 PM
 
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There is a difference of not legislating guidelines and recommending guidelines.
DeSantis is not only refusing to legislate (which I don't object to) but he's also refusing to acknowledge the severity of the COVID spread in his state right now. The hospitals are in crisis mode.

But he just seems to be in denial right now. Red Tide, Covid......it's all just too much for him so he's reverting to childish, Trump like political tactics of making it about Biden and fighting Biden...and not about trying to fix the problems in his state.

It seems to work for the Republicans right now.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is crazy, at least the governors of Alabama and Louisiana are addressing the seriousness of the virus, DeSantis is dug in.

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Mayor Jerry Demings of Orange County, Florida, slammed his state's Governor Ron DeSantis' response to the surge in COVID-19 infections in the southern state, saying he is putting his "political future" above the lives of state residents.

Florida alone has accounted for about one in five new COVID-19 infections in the U.S. over the past two weeks. The New York Times' pandemic tracker shows the U.S. has averaged 96,036 new daily COVID-19 infections over the past 14 days, with 17,757 on average of those being reported in the southern state. Despite the surge, DeSantis, a Republican, has blocked schools from issuing new mask mandates and eschewed new restrictions to curb the spread of the pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...edgdhp&pc=U531
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:26 PM
 
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DeSantis is amazing -- he's breaking his own record for daily COVID cases. He's leading the way in the USA....WTG DeSantis.
Yes....he's leading the way for freedom of choice in America and not an authoritarian dictatorship government like Biden is trying his best to ram down our throats.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:29 PM
 
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Yes....he's leading the way for freedom of choice in America and not an authoritarian dictatorship government like Biden is trying his best to ram down our throats.
You can lead teh way for choice and still advise responsibly.

What you are suggesting is that in order to have free will we have to irresponsible.

DeSantis' problem is not that he refuses to legislate mask mandates...it's his refusal to acknowledge the crisis in his state, that there are recommended guidelines that may ease the spread, etc.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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You can lead teh way for choice and still advise responsibly.

What you are suggesting is that in order to have free will we have to irresponsible.

DeSantis' problem is not that he refuses to legislate mask mandates...it's his refusal to acknowledge the crisis in his state, that there are recommended guidelines that may ease the spread, etc.
The spread you irrationally fear is only a threat to the very old and very sick. They can quarantine without effecting the rest of us nor society in general. No masks, no lockdowns no closures, and no Government Mandates. Grow the hell up.
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