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Old 08-08-2021, 06:54 PM
 
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The truth is there isn’t much difference between the two parties. When you first enter politics you might think you will make a difference but then find out that you have to vote party lines if you want a career in politics. It works the same way whether you are a r or a d in Washington
exactly.
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Old 08-08-2021, 06:56 PM
 
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I was, when JFK was president.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:00 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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I don't like either party, but right now the Republicans have become the more loathsome. I won't vote for a candidate who supports Trump.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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My opinion, the GOP is more corrupt. Look at criminal indictments by administration, over the last several decades the GOP has significantly more than democrats. Democrats aren't perfect, but at their core they are trying to help actual people. The GOP's main platform anymore is fear tactics. I rarely see any hopeful message from the GOP, everything is trying to scare people into voting for them. I don't play that game. I've said this before on this forum, but members of the GOP no longer show compassion. If compassion for others came back to the GOP, it would significantly help their platform. People in the GOP try to run on this 'tough, alpha male' mentality, instead of compassion and kindness. I am a VP for a fortune 200 company at work. I see those 'tough, no nonsense' people often on the job. They rarely produce good results.

Just my opinion.
Can you give examples of compassionless acts from members of the GOP? Something from the past few years, not decades ago.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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I don't like either party, but right now the Republicans have become the more loathsome. I won't vote for a candidate who supports Trump.
How so?
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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Can you give examples of compassionless acts from members of the GOP? Something from the past few years, not decades ago.
Sure. During the budget issues of 2018, GOP officials wondered why government workers going a few weeks without a paycheck is a problem because "everyone should be able to easily forgo a paycheck or two". The GOP has fought against nationalized healthcare, which in every other industrialized country has proven to reduce cost. Trump himself increased the number of drone strikes by the US, as well as eliminated a rule requiring the US report civilians killed by them. Look at Florida today. DeSantis is letting US citizens fill hospitals and die to Covid, while mocking it at the same time. Texas: they are pushing back against women's rights (regarding abortion) while letting their power grids fail (and not only leave residents without power, but with high electricity bills on occasion). The GOP of late is hiding a lack of compassion behind a guise of 'freedom'. The GOP pushes back against the rights of gay, transgendered people.

I'd actually like if we went back to the GOP from several decades ago. Below is their party platform from 1956:

1. Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers
2. Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers
3. Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service ad improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system
4. Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits
5. Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex
6. Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts
7. Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable
8. Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex
9. Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment
10. Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public
11. the protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration

The modern GOP would immediately dismiss these ideas as 'communist' or 'socialist'
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:35 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Taking pride in a political party? Is this a thing?
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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Serious question
I doubt it's a serious question. But I'll say this. At least the Democratic party currently has better ideals (promoting education, health care, environmental safeguards) and thankfully isn't hobbled by the blatant lies and criminality of the GOP. Whatever the number may be of Trump associates in trouble with the law, it should make the GOP cringe in shame.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Serious question
No, but it's better than the alternative. There are many issues I don't like the Democrats on, but when you compare the Democratic position with the GOP alternative, I'll take the Democrats every time.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:56 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Can you give examples of compassionless acts from members of the GOP? Something from the past few years, not decades ago.
It seems to me that the GOP values a government so small as to be invisible - no government regulations, no government spending except perhaps on the military, no investment in individuals whether it be an education for our children and young people which allows us to turn out a workforce which is capable of out-competing the workers of other advanced nations, or healthcare for Mom's to be and their infants, our children, our young adult workers and our pensioners who surely deserve decent healthcare after a lifetime of productive work (yeah, we have Medicare and Medicaid but all too often these programs can fall woefully short).

Look at the outrage the Republican party and Trump especially, poured down on John McCain for daring to cast his vote in favor of the ACA. Republicans don't want the people of this country to have something as basic and as necessary as healthcare. Where is the compassion in that stance?

Republicans have plenty of compassion for millionaires and billionaires and the stockholders of big business enterprises. But when it comes to having compassion for the hard working men and women who clock into these businesses day after day and year after year and are a huge component of the success of the company which pays them an all too often slender wage, Republicans have none what-so-ever. If you are a republican, the American worker is dispensable - one insignificant part in a huge machine and just as easily discarded and replaced with an other which can also be discarded. Where's the compassion in that?
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