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Old 08-09-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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You wouldn't have seen this unless you actually read the article, because the title is about Biden and vaccine mandates. But I read it, and this is an amazing admission from Dr. Robert Malone, an immunologist involved in creating the mRNA vaccine. He and Peter Navarro wrote the article below from August 5th.

Vaccine inventor questions mandatory shot push, Biden’s Covid-19 strategy

The third assumption is that the vaccines are safe. Yet scientists, physicians, and public health officials now recognize risks that are rare but by no means trivial. Known side effects include serious cardiac and thrombotic conditions, menstrual cycle disruptions, Bell’s Palsy, Guillain Barre syndrome, and anaphylaxis.

Unknown side effects which virologists fear may emerge include existential reproductive risks, additional autoimmune conditions, and various forms of disease enhancement, i.e., the vaccines can make people more vulnerable to reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 or reactivation of latent viral infections and associated diseases such as shingles. With good reason, the FDA has yet to approve the vaccines now administered under Emergency Use Authorization.


Serious cardiac and thrombotic conditions... that's heart and blood issues.

He also says the assumption that vaccines are safe. Assumption? The CDC has been claiming that they are safe.

Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines

COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. COVID-19 vaccines were evaluated in tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials. The vaccines met the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) rigorous scientific standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality needed to support emergency use authorization (EUA).


This is a DIRECT contradiction between the CDC and the scientists involved in creating the vaccine. And it says they NOW recognize risks. Biden said they were working on this for decades… are you telling me that they were not aware of these risks?

Look what else Malone said in the first quote above… vaccine recipients are more prone to be reinfected with COVID or other viral infections. Unbelievable. As time is progressing, more of what Malone said about the side effects is being manifested.

More from the article…

The failure of the fourth “durability” assumption is the most alarming and perplexing. It now appears our current vaccines are likely to offer a mere 180-day window of protection – a decided lack of durability underscored by scientific evidence from Israel and confirmed by Pfizer, the Department of Health and Human Services, and other countries.


So I guess if you are just doing what you are told, you keep getting shots twice a year… for a virus that’s 98% recoverable.

Put your listening ears on here. After critiquing the Biden strategy to vaccinate as many people as possible, here is his strategy for dealing with COVID… and note that he is saying this likely after making a ton of money from the government by selling them the vaccine…

A far more optimal strategy is to vaccinate only the most vulnerable. This will limit the amount of vaccine-resistant mutations and thereby slow, if not halt, the current vaccine arms race.

Fortunately, those most vulnerable represent a relatively small number; and these cohorts have already achieved high levels of vaccine acceptance. They include senior citizens, for whom the risk of serious disease or death increases exponentially with age, and those with significant comorbidities such as obesity, lung, and heart disease.

For much of the rest of the population, there’s nothing to fear but fear of the virus itself. This is particularly true if we have lawful outpatient access to a growing arsenal of scientifically proven prophylactics and therapeutics.


There’s nothing to fear but COVID for the majority of the population. Use therapeutics on an outpatient basis. That’s it. That’s his strategy now. Sounds like the flu.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:07 PM
 
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Even Mr Malone has called out the nonsense about him being the inventor of the vaccine. You k now that....right?
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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Even Mr Malone has called out the nonsense about him being the inventor of the vaccine. You k now that....right?
No - provide a link please... and I didn't call him THE inventor, but involved in the process of creating the vaccine.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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No - provide a link please.
https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd
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UPDATE: Malone reached out to Logically, stating that he did not invent the mRNA vaccines, but instead the "vaccine technology platform." He also presented us with copies of nine patents – none of which showed that he invented the mRNA vaccines.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:22 PM
 
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So he's not an expert? Is he an immunologist? Is he a scientist?

If you look at who are having issues from the vaccines, his list of side effects have been accurate.

There are a ton of people less knowledgeable than him telling us about how safe the vaccines are.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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So he's not an expert? Is he an immunologist? Is he a scientist?

If you look at who are having issues from the vaccines, his list of side effects have been accurate.
Tell me what vaccine he invented as per your headline?
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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One of the best blogs keeping up with vaccine issues is here.

The COVID Blog

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Tell me what vaccine he invented as per your headline?
Discuss it elsewhere. Not taking the time. Why don't you deal with what's occurring? He is plenty qualified as you stated, since according to what you posted - he created the vaccine platform. He is more qualified than Fauci - that's for sure.

Read thru the blog.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:49 PM
 
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Let me make this clear - I am not promoting Robert Malone as someone great, as he hid these side effects while he was making money... or maybe the government told him he could not disclose these side effects.

This was totally dishonest by a bunch of people to not disclose this. Maybe people would still get the vaccine - that's fine.

But the recommendation from him to just deal with COVID and take therapeutics for the majority of the population - if this advice was given last year instead of trashing therapeutics - we would have saved a bunch of lives.

This is criminal level mischievousness.
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Old 08-09-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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Malone's claims about the dangers of the vaccines have been pretty well debunked, in large part because his claims about the actual science involved are incorrect and misleading. This also drew attention to his claims that he was a key part of the development of RNA vaccines back in the '80s, leading to those actually responsible disputing his level of involvement.
Where exactly?

Please post. And if the link is from Vox.. don't bother.

THe CDC should debunk these claims, but, they have not. Leading to the conclusion they are right.
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Old 08-09-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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Even Mr Malone has called out the nonsense about him being the inventor of the vaccine. You k now that....right?
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Going through the revision history, Malone was only added to the article on June 8th of this year. Before that it simply states "researchers at the Salk Institute" as the developers of the vaccine.

Malone's claims about the dangers of the vaccines have been pretty well debunked, in large part because his claims about the actual science involved are incorrect and misleading. This also drew attention to his claims that he was a key part of the development of RNA vaccines back in the '80s, leading to those actually responsible disputing his level of involvement.

Given this, it's not his removal from the page which is suspect, but the fact that he was ever mentioned in the first place.

his name does seem to appear intermittently through the articles past revisions.

It's possible that the recent attention he has got lead to both his rise to prominence and subsequent removal, due to it leading to his importance and involvement being challenged.

In such a scenario the wiki editors might have opted to remove direct mentions of him by name until the situation becomes clearer.

The dude is being touted in conservative media as “the inventor of mRNA vaccines”, which is a claim that is only substantiated by his own personal website. He co-authored a paper about in vitro and in vivo non-human transfection of mRNA, but lacked a delivery mechanism for it, and has not done substantial work on vaccines since the 90s.

Please see related comments in this thread, in particular, post #74 there on page 8, re Dr. Malone and mRNA vaccines. There are mRNA vaccines, the technology and framework involved, there are the current mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...te-mrna-8.html

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