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Old 08-12-2021, 09:47 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Yes, and that was all in the early days, when no one knew how to handle it.

What's Mississippi's excuse today, a year and a half later?
It is the poorest, least educated, most obese state in the union combined with being the state with the largest black population percentage.
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Ask yourself why our medical authorities have yet to put together a standard treatment protocol for covid after all this time. That is where the blame should go.



This is a new disease ("after all this time" lol, bless) and impacts different people very differently. It's like asking "why isn't there a standard protocol for cancer"? For some people with some responses to the illness, there are very standard protocols. And then for others, they need a lung transplant in their 20s. Just like you wouldn't give someone with breast cancer the treatment protocol that cured my cancer, treatment protocols that work on a healthy 40 year old are not likely to work the same way on my dear friend who is 30 with a kidney transplant or someone who is having strokes because of blood clotting versus lung damage.


For many people, we do have a relatively standard protocol, which is why the death rates were far lower in the second wave than in the first.
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:51 AM
 
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It is the poorest, least educated, most obese state in the union combined with being the state with the largest black population.
True.

We do know black people tend to have poorer covid outcomes overall. Some believe this is due to lower vitamin D levels in the black population. Being a poor state also leads to higher rates of nutritional deficiencies in addition to the obesity issue which is a known risk factor when it comes to covid. More than 80% of covid hospitalizations occur in the obese population.
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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the 36% isn't "dishonest", but it is lazy as hell. It's headline-memorization, without considering the details.
my apologies. it IS dishonest. While not great, it is very easy to find MS adult rate via the CDC vaccination page.

The # is 43% of adults. 71% of those over 65.

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static...rces/12130.pdf
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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Just have to ask - was there outrage and blame when NY had to open covid field hospitals?

Personally, I at least hope these ones in Mississippi get used.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:01 AM
 
Location: NJ
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biden covid/delta express terminal in MS is the cause
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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The Delta Variant is an excellent case of massive over-hype. Should you get vaccinated? Yeah, sure. Is everyone going to be bullied into vaccinating? Obviously not. Are variants going to kill people? Yes they will. But even in Florida (after the CDC corrected their misreported numbers) is not seeing an overwhelming surge of deaths.

We were essentially promised dead bodies everywhere and all sorts of doom and gloom. What we got instead was quick and significant uptick in cases, followed by a quick decline to pre-Delta levels. More people did die, but it was tiny compared to pre-vaccine days.

The entire country needs to stop obsessing about new daily cases and focus on the statistic that actually matters: New daily deaths.

Mississippi is in the middle of the Delta surge, so yes their hospitals are getting busier. That said, it's not looking any worse than January/February, where Covid-19 cases were exploding everywhere. Mississippi might need help to get over the hump, but it won't last long. Their daily deaths are nowhere near as bad as earlier in the pandemic. Just as we saw in Florida, that isn't likely to change. It is very curious that news media chooses to act like this is the worst they've seen. It simply isn't.

Why does news media want to keep us all perpetually terrified???
Since when did death become the only thing to worry about? Being ill, having protracted illness, needing to be hospitalized, getting a massive hospital bill, lost wages, and long-term/permanent damage from illness, likely contributing the spread of the disease (r0 of 6 for the Delta Variant) are all risks of getting sick with COVID.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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the 36% isn't "dishonest", but it is lazy as hell. It's headline-memorization, without considering the details.
So you think the breakdown in demographics is different in other states with a higher vaccination rate. Stop making excuses, these states with low vaccination rates are the prime reason for the surge.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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my apologies. it IS dishonest. While not great, it is very easy to find MS adult rate via the CDC vaccination page.

The # is 43% of adults. 71% of those over 65.

https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static...rces/12130.pdf
Thanks and agreed.

The hyperpoliticization of this entire pandemic has forced anyone who wants to know what's actually going on to go look it up for themselves. Every news source seems to have some axe to grind. Fox News and the like wants to embarrass New York, California, New Jersey and other blue states. CNN, MSNBC and 90% of news media wants to embarrass Florida, Texas, Mississippi and every other red state. Nobody tells the straight-up truth and everyone massages the data to fit their chosen narrative. That is precisely why I looked up the vaccination rates on the CDC website.

Wanna see the big picture on what's going on in Mississippi? Don't check the news. Check somewhere like this: https://www.worldometers.info/corona...a/mississippi/ Check the CDC's site. Be prepared for some of these sites to make mistakes and to make corrections. Keep on checking.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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All I know is that my provider is UHC, not the Government. What I see is that we, Americans pay much higher rates than the rest of the world, and I still listen to people left and right who get denied coverage, have to wait to get an appointment, need to go through hoops to see a specialist, or get a common Rx filled.

I don't know what Gov't healthcare would look like, other than my family member who is on Medicaid gets better coverage than I do, and does not have as many problems getting needed meds or appointments.
Well you do, you're just choosing remain ignorant of the fact.
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