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Old 08-19-2021, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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There really are a tremendous amount of cases. I have a gut feeling that there is alot of negative studies about this "vaccine" coming very quickly.


Yet, the liberals mock those who come down with COVID-19 despite the massive surge in breakthrough cases.

There seems to be a tremendous amount of cases out there considering the vaccine in many hyper-vaccinated parts of America, Isreal and England.

This vaccine isn't like what was advertised earlier this year, I got two of so-called mRNA doses but I am not going to pretend and look down on those who look at these numbers of breakthrough cases and decide not to rush to get this therapy.

https://deadline.com/tag/breakthrough-cases/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6557/838

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6557/838
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Old 08-19-2021, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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There really are a tremendous amount of cases. I have a gut feeling that there is alot of negative studies about this "vaccine" coming very quickly.


Yet, the liberals mock those who come down with COVID-19 despite the massive surge in breakthrough cases.

There seems to be a tremendous amount of cases out there considering the vaccine in many hyper-vaccinated parts of America, Isreal and England.

This vaccine isn't like what was advertised earlier this year, I got two of so-called mRNA doses but I am not going to pretend and look down on those who look at these numbers of breakthrough cases and decide not to rush to get this therapy. Your link to the study wants money to see the actual data which likely shows as I said old people with weak immune systems.
Here is a video of a doctor in the ER who has to argue with MAGA's who claim covid doesn't exist, or refuse to vaccinate.

https://deadline.com/tag/breakthrough-cases/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6557/838

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6557/838

If you look into the cases with covid that were fully vaccinated and end up in the hospital likely you find they are older then 75 years old . The reason is a weak immune system this is why old people who got the vaccine had hardly any immune response on the 2nd shot. This is why doctors are advising older people to stay away from other people who might pass it to them like grandkids who have no vaccine.

99% of the US cases in the hospital with serious illness from Covid are unvaccinated. If you get sick from covid not vaccinated oh well. Too bad that they are allowed in the hospital clogging up the system for other people who need care for other things.

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Old 08-19-2021, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If you look into the cases with covid that were fully vaccinated and end up in the hospital likely you find they are older then 75 years old . The reason is a weak immune system this is why old people who got the vaccine had hardly any immune response on the 2nd shot. This is why doctors are advising older people to stay away from other people who might pass it to them like grandkids who have no vaccine.

99% of the US cases in the hospital with serious illness from Covid are unvaccinated. If you get sick from covid not vaccinated oh well. Too bad that they are allowed in the hospital clogging up the system for other people who need care for other things.
The reality is that it does not seem to be any where close to being as effective as advertised.

The vaccine effectiveness for infection of COVID-19 was false advertising.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ent-effective/
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Old 08-19-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Except for one small detail: the large majority of people dying from COVID-19 now are unvaccinated.
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Old 08-19-2021, 10:03 PM
 
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Interesting, how when Trump was President the liberals were blaming Trump for much smaller COVID-19 numbers.

With Joe Biden, there have tremendous amounts of cases and are at several times the level of March 2021 and now the Democrats want to blame the unvaccinated even though every day there is more news about cases skyrocketing among the vaccinated.
That is because of the Delta which originated in India last year. If we were all vaccinated here, when the Delta got here we would have had less serious cases and deaths. The vaccines are tending to wane, especially the Pfizer. Not so much the Moderna. And that waning of course is a large negative, and why #3 is pending right now for our higher risk people.
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Old 08-19-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: The Tar heel State
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The reality is that it does not seem to be any where close to being as effective as advertised.

The vaccine effectiveness for infection of COVID-19 was false advertising.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ent-effective/
These vaccines were effective for the FIRST variant here in the US. The question is how effective are they for the NEW variants, which were finding out right now.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The reality is that it does not seem to be any where close to being as effective as advertised.

The vaccine effectiveness for infection of COVID-19 was false advertising.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ent-effective/
99% of patients who are in ICU's are not vaccinated your argument doesn't hold water. The 1% are vaccinated have a poor immune systems as I stated already . You need an immune system for the vaccine to work.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Except for one small detail: the large majority of people dying from COVID-19 now are unvaccinated.
Exactly! The Vaccine doesn't stop COVID Infection but it does stop it from you winding up in the Emergency Room dying because you can't breathe.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:00 AM
 
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I wanted to start a separate thread that Fauci got caught red-handed lying about The statistics of those being hospitalized as pretty much only unvaccinated. He was throwing in the statistics including unvaccinated from the beginning of the pandemic and making it sound as though it had been since the vaccine was available. Lol that is Dirty nasty out right lying. I guess people are finally starting to wake up. Yes, the vaccines were part of a conspiracy and it’s now becoming blatantly obvious.

Fast is, JUST AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE, the flip is happening. In many places the people being hospitalized and getting sick and even dying are those who are vaccinated.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:09 AM
 
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99% of patients who are in ICU's are not vaccinated your argument doesn't hold water. The 1% are vaccinated have a poor immune systems as I stated already . You need an immune system for the vaccine to work.
Read what I wrote above about that statistic. It was a lie from Fauci and others. They were using numbers from when the pandemic began. There’s many places about the country for over half and then Israel almost 80% of those being hospitalized are fully vaccinated. You are watching a conspiracy unfold right before your eyes.
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