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easy we decided the Taliban was our enemy and we needed to save the Afghans form them when we should have focused completely on getting Bin Ladin and every time the Taliban did something against us killed off some of their leadership and frankly, it may sound harsh, bomb the hell out of whatever neighborhood or village they came from. Even a radical can be concerned about their own safety and the safety of their Grandmother. Barbarians only understand barbarian tactics.
We should never have gone there at all. Nation building doesn't work because of the way we are wired through evolution. If you are culturally conditioned to believe certain things from childhood, it takes time to change that. It's not something that can be done overnight unless you go in and slaughter everyone that doesn't agree with your way of doing things, like marxists do. Bottom line, nobody likes being told what to do. Nobody likes to feel like they are forced into doing something.
The natives ultimately come to resent the people trying to destroy their culture, as many whites the world over are starting to feel when it comes to the elites force feeding them with refugees and immigrants and telling them how racist and evil they are. It's like the nation gets taken over from within by a small group of powerful people that act to undermine the host culture. People used to call them "bankers" back in the day. There are other terms you can use. I would call it human nature. If you take out one group of rich people and leave a vaccuum, it will be filled by another group that will get corrupted by wealth and power and cause the same problems. We are just not evolved enough as a species yet.
This is an outcome that the anti-American establishment types are pleased with. Nothing has gone strictly "wrong" here from their perspective. This debacle was a huge success, beyond their wildest dreams. Yes, there is some short-term angst regarding those who were abandoned there, but that is literally collateral damage in these people's calculations. This too shall pass.
In the long game, the damage done to our country was a feature, not a bug in this episode. This was a "win" for the Democrat leftists that support and ascribe to these sorts of globalist elite ideals.
As far as the current regime and Joe Biden, he is a patsy and a puppet, and both he and his reputation are expendable for the furtherment of the cause. It does not appear to me that Biden is so far gone that this will be beyond him. If he had not grasped how he is being used here before now, I think this incident will have clarified that for him.
So whether anything actually went "wrong" here or not is a matter of perspective. Most of the Democrat left globalist elite supporters will count this towards their long-game goals as a decisive "win".
I agree we shouldn't have been there as long and as thoroughly as we were, but the withdrawal was a huge disaster. How much was Biden's fault and how much was the military's fault, I don't know. Why were there tens of thousands of Americans and billions of dollars worth of equipment there if we were supposed to be completely withdrawn in a few weeks? There should have only been enough personnel and equipment there that could have been withdrawn in one day.
We didn’t stay the course. We could’ve kept the Taliban at bay indefinitely with just Bagram Air Base. It was working. No combat deaths in 18 months, Taliban hiding in Pakistan, afraid of getting a warhead on their forehead.
There are approximately 200,000 US military members stationed and deployed around the world in 170 countries.
But 2,500 troops at Bagram is just unacceptable and we must leave immediately, causing the collapse of an entire country.
The American people demand we must leave Afghanistan right now! The other 170 countries? Those are ok and we can stay.
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only sane person in this world.
You do realize that the Taliban in it's current state is the love child of Soviet Russia and the United States right?
What’s your point? Since we helped the Mujahideen push out the Soviets, that means when they allowed Bin Laden to kill thousands of Americans, we should’ve just ignored them?
Even if we went in and killed Bin Laden at Tora Bora in 2001, and then immediately left, we should’ve left Mullah Omar and the Taliban alone to resume harboring terrorists and attack us again?
It's about Pakistan. That country supported the Taliban. It has a long border with Afghanistan. Pakistan has nuclear bombs. The U. S. didn't want to provoke war with them. Interesting how its been okay for Pakistan to have nuclear bombs.
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There are other terms you can use. I would call it human nature. If you take out one group of rich people and leave a vaccuum, it will be filled by another group that will get corrupted by wealth and power and cause the same problems. We are just not evolved enough as a species yet.