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Old 08-25-2021, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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waiting on the omega, theta and zeta variants.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:02 AM
 
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I am already seeing people getting upset. My workplace has an insane backlog that we can't get to until it is safe in the world for people above 60. I see people walking around without masks and just going ahead with their lives.

The boots on the ground are growing tired of it.

It just seem obvious to me that the vaccines do not work. They don't even provide a small amount of safety for those who have them.

I feel like we just have to hold on until the next election... that is the only way we can get ride of Faucci.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:16 AM
 
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There is an easuer solution, everyone get vaccinated.

Around the world? No not quick enough. World is at 24%. This is after 9 months of vaccinations. And much of the world has inferior vaccines that are having trouble with Delta. So vaccinating the world quickly enough is not possible.

Its simply not true that all Americans getting vaccinated will stop variants from infecting us.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:24 AM
 
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The New York variant (called Iota) has been around since this time last year and was identified in Nov 2020. While it is more transmissable and resistant to some monoclonal antibodies, it has not increased breakthrough cases in vaccinated and previously infected persons (source: various pre-pubs). Get vaccinated and forget about it.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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From the link you posted: “Physical distancing and masks will slow the spread of all variants, and we need to double down on those efforts.â€


So you posted a lie.
There is a huge difference between slow and stop.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:28 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The New York variant (called Iota) has been around since this time last year and was identified in Nov 2020. While it is more transmissable and resistant to some monoclonal antibodies, it has not increased breakthrough cases in vaccinated and previously infected persons (source: various pre-pubs). Get vaccinated and forget about it.
That's good news. The main problem is that not enough people are getting vaccinated within a short period of time. Eventually, A variant will develop among the unvaccinated that will be able to infect vaccinated people easier, and that will become the new dominant strain.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:33 AM
 
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This is the Iota variant, first discovered in February 2021.
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Old 08-25-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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That's good news. The main problem is that not enough people are getting vaccinated within a short period of time. Eventually, A variant will develop among the unvaccinated that will be able to infect vaccinated people easier, and that will become the new dominant strain.
You misunderstand the science. There is no pressure on the virus with unvaccinated people. The pressure is on the virus in vaccinated people.

The variant happens because the virus is blocked by the vaccine and it changes to infect those who are vaccinated.
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Old 08-25-2021, 07:09 AM
 
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The New York variant (called Iota) has been around since this time last year and was identified in Nov 2020. While it is more transmissable and resistant to some monoclonal antibodies, it has not increased breakthrough cases in vaccinated and previously infected persons (source: various pre-pubs). Get vaccinated and forget about it.
Why should we take medical advice or info from you?

However I do like the "forget about it" line
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Old 08-25-2021, 07:23 AM
 
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According to the article, these new emerging variants are partially or completely resistant to monoclonal antibody treatments.
There is a new one available but of course as with the previous version -VIPs only
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