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Old 09-16-2021, 09:17 AM
 
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*Note: This thread is not meant to talk down on Black people.
Sure. We believe you.

 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:17 AM
 
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I saw it in high school, native African students who immigrated here were absolutely disgusted with the attitudes of many of their African American classmates. They also were bullied quite a bit.
another made up stereotype to make black americans look bad. The truth of the matter is African immigrants are taught to stay away from black americans and they have their own ethnic "racism" towards black americans. Even to the point of calling us words like "Akatas". Many African and carribean immigrants never even considered themselves black until the last 5-10 years. They saw themselves are some sort of superior immigrant. Of course they went around pretending to be victims of black americans to try to get in favor of the white people they worship. Many of these africans came from societies where they have a caste system and they would bring that crap over here to the states and they thought black americans were the lowest caste here. So when they (africans) would interact with us, guess how they talked to us...with disrespect. And if you wall claim to know black americans like you do...do you think black americans just sat there and let some immigrant talk crazy to them?

this place doesn't operate in reality.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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And this is the thing. Single parenthood, we can discuss that on another thread. I've discussed it myself on other threads.
No you do not discuss it. You deflect from it. Because you want to deflect from the cause of the problem.

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I suspect it was only brought up as a deflection.
Because you don't care about the truth.

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There was no intention to offer anything rational.
hahahahaha As if the main cause of high crime is irrational.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Sure. We believe you.
Um, isn't the OP black?
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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another made up stereotype to make black americans look bad. The truth of the matter is African immigrants are taught to stay away from black americans and they have their own ethnic "racism" towards black americans. Even to the point of calling us words like "Akatas". Many African and carribean immigrants never even considered themselves black until the last 5-10 years. They saw themselves are some sort of superior immigrant. Of course they went around pretending to be victims of black americans to try to get in favor of the white people they worship. Many of these africans came from societies where they have a caste system and they would bring that crap over here to the states and they thought black americans were the lowest caste here. So when they (africans) would interact with us, guess how they talked to us...with disrespect. And if you wall claim to know black americans like you do...do you think black americans just sat there and let some immigrant talk crazy to them?

this place doesn't operate in reality.
ahh poor victim. And then the silly veiled threat. It's about being raised properly.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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It’s not about race IMO. It’s about culture, mentoring and how a child views his place in society growing up.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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It would be interesting to see several suburban vs urban data sets of the same metros for middle class vs poor blacks.

I dont subscribe to statista so no proof either way.

I would not concentrate on Alaska as it is too small a sample.

I would be more interested in NY vs Il or RI vs IN.

For that matter, how much of the IL rate is Cook County? (Vs say Peoria)
It would be very interesting. However, we don't have that data available. At least not directly. The best that could be done is to find a list of those who were murdered/committed murder and where it happened.

Alaska isn't the only state I want to do an analysis on. It just sticks out to me because of its characteristics. Not a large Black population. It's Republican. It's very cold. One claims those things keep the "riff raff" out. Somehow, it has historically had a high murder rate. I will get to NY, CT, and RI later.

Missouri, it's a cut and try case. St. Louis and Kansas City. Michigan, cut and dry. Detroit. Wisconsin is historically one of the least violent states in the USA. However, it frequently has one of the highest Black homicide rates in America. Milwaukee is the factor.

Cook County drives alot of Illinois' homicide problems. But there are some dicey areas in other parts of Illinois.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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It’s not about race IMO. It’s about culture, mentoring and how a child views his place in society growing up.
This is the thing I've wanted to talk about. How do states like Michigan, Missouri, and Wisconsin frequently have high Black homicide rates, while states like Connecticut and New York don't? What's up with Oklahoma's Black homicide rate vs Texas or Mississippi? I'm talking about case by case between states and cities.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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you need to stop posting about places you've never lived. And i'm specifically talking about black neighborhoods. You've posted this false crap before. Most crimes are interpersonal crimes. People that know each other, domestic crimes. None of this "people look at you wrong" fantasy mess you keep spewing. A lot of these crimes are simply stuff like some male beats a woman and the woman's brother kills the other guy. The news rarely tells you what happened behind black murders. And that is 100% intentional. When white people murder each other you will notice the news will go out of their way to explain it in detail and give a reason WHY it happened. With black murders they just tell you a murder happened in a black area and leave it to people like you to create fan-fiction.
I worked daily in black neighborhoods for years. The gangs were very territorial and WOULD kill for someone looking at them wrong. I was told by black friends to avoid eye contact. I bet you have never even been in a black neighborhood. I worked on the buildings in the all black projects. Most of the killings were drug related or over territory. White people do the same in the mostly white projects. The main difference was the kind of drugs.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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Sure. We believe you.
I'm Black.

And I had to put that disclaimer, because as usual, it's hard to have discussions without histrionics taking place.
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