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Old 10-04-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Artisan10 View Post
The Republican Party is MAGA/America First now.
not going to argue with you there...... but i don't believe that fact is benefiting for the GOP.

 
Old 10-04-2021, 03:08 PM
 
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Republicans have NO problem wasting other peoples' $$$ for no other reason than that they didn't get their way. Maybe they should give AZ taxpayers a break and just stomp their feet and hold their breath, the normal tactics of spoiled little children who don't get their way.
LOL, like the taxpayer break democrats are getting ready to give America? The election fraud investigations would never have crossed the hundred million dollar mark. The dems want to spend what, about three and a half trillion or so? Lets pretend the Republicans would spend one billion on election fraud investigations, which is actually important to the nation. That means the democrats want to spend just under 3500 times that on meaningless social justice programs.

biden says, build back better, but he already rebuilt the taliban, and equipped them too. democrats have zero room to lecture Republicans about fiscal responsibility.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 03:54 PM
 
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Only in the minds of democrats, who completely ignore all the fraud.

Unfortunately for the dems, there is now proof of fraud and the dems are caught in a legal snare. The good thing is that the dem underlings involved in the fraud will cut deals with the prosecutors and rat out who gave them the orders.
In Arizona it seems some Republicans don't think there was any fraud.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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In Arizona it seems some Republicans don't think there was any fraud.
Not many.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Here's a brief summary of Audit Results

(-) against Audit
-hand recount confirms the machine recount (why they even bothered with this, i don't know). This tends to mean the Machine did not produce more votes than were voted in person.
(+) for Audit
-multiple residences used to vote 2-3 times (who hacked their accounts... ???). Point is...you can't vote from 2-3 locations using the same voting card (this is fraud and a felony).

-logged INSPECTOR entries on voting machines were deleted 1 day before the audit---(Why)---who's hiding??? (the Atty General wants to know)

-auditors found very insecure voting system (no surprise...both parties have complained against this for over 10yrs)

-voted system DOES NOT capture 'Blank Signatures' (voters can submit a vote and not sign their cards). HUGH? Yes, that's correct.

-the did not do Signature verification...Why???

-more vote tallies viewed as questionable than margin of victory in election (therefore audit continues).


***This is why every country in the Free World has voters ID.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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Here's a brief summary of Audit Results

(-) against Audit
-hand recount confirms the machine recount (why they even bothered with this, i don't know). This tends to mean the Machine did not produce more votes than were voted in person.
Don't slide so quickly past this. If the hand recounts confirm the machine recount, it means that the machines were not hacked.

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(+) for Audit
-multiple residences used to vote 2-3 times (who hacked their accounts... ???). Point is...you can't vote from 2-3 locations using the same voting card (this is fraud and a felony).
Where are the examples of this and what is the magnitude? I know that there were a handful of Republican Arizona voters who committed such types of election fraud and got caught.

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-logged INSPECTOR entries on voting machines were deleted 1 day before the audit---(Why)---who's hiding??? (the Atty General wants to know)
Again, the hand recount verifying the machine recount means that the machines were not hacked.

Besides, there are backups for the machines prior to the log files being overwritten (as circular files tend to do over time). The Cyber Ninjas and CyFIR weren't smart enough to request the backups of the machines, but the AG's office can request/subpoena them.

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-auditors found very insecure voting system (no surprise...both parties have complained against this for over 10yrs)
No, the auditors didn't find very insecure voting systems. The standards that the auditors wanted followed were for machines that are regularly connected to the internet, not for machines that exist on an air-gapped LAN. Also, performing some of the updates that the auditors said should have been accomplished would not have made the machines more secure, but would have invalidated their EAC certification.

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-voted system DOES NOT capture 'Blank Signatures' (voters can submit a vote and not sign their cards). HUGH? Yes, that's correct.
That's right, that happens. The election workers then send notification to such voters that the signature was invalid/missing, and the voter is given another chance to cast a vote. But the original ballot and envelope aren't destroyed. These unsigned envelopes and their ballots are saved so that inexperienced auditors can use them to confuse people.

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-the did not do Signature verification...Why???
Signature verification was performed. The auditors are simply not understanding that there will be some signatures that election workers will send back to voters to be cured.

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-more vote tallies viewed as questionable than margin of victory in election (therefore audit continues).
Only if you buy into the smoke and mirrors that were put up by the auditors.

Notice that the auditors were not allowed to be cross-examined by anyone. The auditors' testimony won't stand up in a court of law - and the Arizona Senate President knows this. It's why she punted to the Arizona Attorney General.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 08:55 PM
 
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The auditors' testimony won't stand up in a court of law - and the Arizona Senate President knows this. It's why she punted to the Arizona Attorney General.
If the auditors' testimony wouldn't stand up in a court of law, Senator Fann would not have forwarded the report to the Attorney General.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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There is nothing fake about the 2020 election fraud except the media/big tech suppression of the discussion of it. If liberals believed it was really nonexistent, they would welcome the investigations and discussions. Instead they want them shut down, because they fear the whole scheme will be exposed.

The election was most likely stolen, and I doubt there will be any chance of a fair election in the future. Remember the quote; you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out. That is a prophetic line and no doubt foretells the coming plight of the USA.
No, the election was not stolen from Trump. And surely you think Trump was, by far, one of the very best presidents in American history.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The reality does not meet your fantasy.

historic election, first time the electorate seated a mentally diminished candidate in the oval office.

Ask Dean, dukakis and perry about mental slip ups. Media ended their campaigns in a heart beat fearing their potential diminished mental abilities, given the gravity of presidential responsibilities

First time two dem candidates, rejected by democrat voters in early must win dem primaries, became the chosen candidates for president.

Trump need 64 million votes to win, got 74 million and "lost"?

Trump rallies had huge audiences as never seen before in politics.

Biden stayed in his basement get psych meds titrated for effect. Fist time a prez xandidate refused to campaign and was covered by the media.

For 4 years an attempted insurrection was conducted using lies and misleading information to remove trump from office. These criminals, posing as ethical legislators, broke the law committing treason and surely would not stop at fixing an election... as they did in their own primaries in 2016 and 2020.

States violated election laws and judges looked the other way. Voting process was changed mid election and ballots went to every mailing address regardless of who was registered, even went to the dead, pets and infants..... in multiple batches. Tine to count votes extended past election day.

These actions destroyed the integrity of the election. No integrity no stability. Elections are the only legal way for citizens to oppose of support policies and legislators. That was taken away with all the demonstrated on the run voting modifications in the must win states.

There is no way Biden was legitimately elected, unless the democrat voters are declared insane for putting a mentally diminished man in the oval office.

I'd bet most dems would agree the election was fraudulent just to avoid being blamed for electing biden.

"Joe you don;t have to do this" cautioned obama, what was he referring to? Biden was the bait that would be sacrificed in order for the socialists take over.

biden never ran for president!

biden sat at home and let the media do the work for him.
And you, too, surely quite strongly believe that Trump was one of the best presidents in American history.
 
Old 10-04-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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If the auditors' testimony wouldn't stand up in a court of law, Senator Fann would not have forwarded the report to the Attorney General.
that's a big assumption with no evidence to support.
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