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Given the Republicans are so fractured, there'd have to be an area for the hard-core Trump cult members, an area for the Tea Party Republicans, an area for the evangelical wing, an area for the RINO's and an area for the No-Trump Republicans.
Yeah, they are so fractured that they will take control of Congress next year, they are 1 vote away from taking control of the Senate and they fully control 23 states to Democrats 15 states and they have 27 governors to 23 for Democrats. Yeah, so fractured.
On election night nothing after that for 4 years. If the Trump voters did that, we would hear it for 4 years and that they are anti-American and want to break up the government. Different narrative by the media.
No need for secession if we just give states more autonomy and limit the power and scope of the federal government. Let California decide what is right for California and let Montana decide what is right for Montana. The problem starts when people from California and New York go to Washington with the intent of telling people in Montana and Nebraska how to live.
Because they gave away their state power in return for $$$$$$
Now the Fed is entrenched in your lives...via $$$$$
Here’s an interesting discussion, hypothetically let’s say this happened. We cloned America and all the people that want to succeed from the country now have their own country, the location isn’t important, we will assume that Tumpland has all the same resources and infrastructure that currently exists today. What would this new country look like?
#1. Well obviously, Trump would be president. And since he wins any election he runs for, he’s in effect president for life. In other countries it’s usually referred to as a dictatorship.
#2. Since Trump doesn’t like what the press writes about him,the easiest way to solve this problem is to do away of the free press. If they only write lies about him, the countries better without them. In other countries, the free press is kind of like a check and balance like the courts on there leader’s powers. If there wasn’t a free press Watergate would never have happened, and other corrupt politicians would be able to get away with alot more without fear of the press swaying public opinion against them. But in Trump land, corruption doesn’t exist, Trump said so.
#3 illegal immigration – Trump land will be protected by high walls, razor wire, even land mines and free fire zones are not off the table. Any solution that prevents the horde of uneducated illegals looking to steal Trumpland workers jobs.
The downside of this strategy is there will be a number of jobs that no self-respecting Trumpland citizen would consider, like cherry, asparagus, apple, strawberry, mushroom and pepper picking. These are labor intensive jobs that are usually performed by legal and illegal immigrates. Pretty much any farm harvesting task that can’t be mechanized, produce will be in short supply.
#4 Import/Export - Any imports would be at best banned, at worse only special exceptions would be allow, for resources and products that can’t be obtained locally. On the plus side this greatly helps the work force, on the downside, products like TV’s would be more expensive that overseas competitors, not that it would matter, they can’tbe imported anyway. I wouldn’t expect a huge increase in prices though, maybe doubling, most manufacturing is highly automated with robotics, so it’s not like you adding a huge overhead by paying workersfair wages.
#5 – Energy – Trumpland has enough resources to not have torely on imported fuel, most power production would probably be coal plants, to keep campaign promises made by Trump. Trumpland would be a big contributor to greenhouse gases, not that it matters any, global warming is a myth, Trump says so, so it must be true.
I know, the week Trump won in 2016, that Canadian website went down for weeks. They couldn't handle the traffic. I never seen anything so silly because their side lost.
Seems inevitable. Democrats aren’t interested in America as it was founded and as we knew it before they took over the federal government.
I could agree with your statement if you insert the word "Liberal" before the word Democrats.
Old school moderate Democrats are patriots, and don't like; Bernie, AOC & her anti-U.S. posse, BLM, defund police, woke, massive deficit spending, rioting, increased murder rates, bad urban schools, over-reaching federal government, massive gov't pension deficits, any more than the rest of us do.
Somehow, a small radical liberal sliver of the Democrat party has taken it over for now, but their grip is weakening. Look at the moderate Dem push back over the Trillions of proposed spending that will be significantly reduced when all is said and done, as just 1 example. Moderate Democrats have had enough of the radical Libs.
The same can be said for the vast majority of Trump voters. Very few want to secede, invade the capital, or do anything else harmful to anything or anyone. That's a bunch or media-driven propaganda, that is reaching fewer and fewer Americans, because the mainstream media outlets are on life support.
Those of us in the middle are ~60% of the country. We are not part of the 20% hard left, or the 20% hard right. We are the silent majority, and in 2022 we will assert our will, and retake America.
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Many of these Americans applying for legal permanent residence status in Canada would quickly discover that they're not qualified.
Express Entry is the quickest way to immigrate to Canada. But, that doesn’t necessarily mean everybody can immigrate to Canada through Express Entry. Express Entry is an application management system used by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) to manage and process applications received through three of Canada’s federal economic immigration programs for skilled workers. Express Entry is a competitive immigration system, ranking all eligible candidates against one another and then inviting the best ranking candidates to apply for Canadian Permanent Resident Status. Candidates are ranked against one another based on their age, education, language proficiency, work experience, and other factors.
You must have sufficient funds to provide for yourself and family if they are coming with you. An individual needs to demonstrate they have $CAD 13,213 and a family of four needs to have $CAD 24,553.
You must not have a criminal record.
You must be in good health.
You must have a marketable job skill.
The bottom line is that's it's not that easy to immigrate to Canada. Most immigrants are going to have marketable skills, be in good health demonstrate that their not going to become public charges and don't have a criminal record. It's shame that it's not that difficult to immigrate to the U.S.
Limited federal government overreach is the answer. Stop playing dictator and bullying the states around. See post above this one. If we want to be in this together we have to give people the right to live the kind of life they want and not force a cultural preference down peoples throats. Forget the fact that it's democrats that are the real racists anyways. We have checks and balances to stop people from trying to impose their will on others. That seems to be all going out the window as one side seems to have no problem playing dictator right now.
Blame the people who voted for them and continue to support them.
That works both ways. I think you'll find it hard when people want to live a healthy life, and there's people out there who refuse to get vaccinated.
I think you'll find it hard when people want to breath clean air, but others want to continue to contaminate
I think you'll find it hard when people want to be able to swim in their rivers and lakes, but companies want to be able to pollute because it gives maximum profit.
I think you'll find it hard when some people want to send their kids to school and know they are safe, but others want to be sure they have the right to go to school without proper vaccinations, hygiene, etc.
OTOH, you might also find problems if
some people want to be able to hunt, but others want the woods to be left for hiking and camping
Some people want to be able to bear arms, but others want to go out in a gun-free zone
Some people want to get out and smoke a cigarette in a restaurant after dinner, but others want to breath clean air.
It goes on and on. And it comes from all sides. There is no liberal or conservative, red or blue. To live in a society, everyone can't have the right to "live the kind of life they want and not force cultural preferences down people's throats". That would be anarchy, and even if tried, would never work. As much as WE ALL WOULD like to believe it would.
Here’s an interesting discussion, hypothetically let’s say this happened. We cloned America and all the people that want to succeed from the country now have their own country, the location isn’t important, we will assume that Tumpland has all the same resources and infrastructure that currently exists today. What would this new country look like?
#1. Well obviously, Trump would be president. And since he wins any election he runs for, he’s in effect president for life. In other countries it’s usually referred to as a dictatorship.
#2. Since Trump doesn’t like what the press writes about him,the easiest way to solve this problem is to do away of the free press. If they only write lies about him, the countries better without them. In other countries, the free press is kind of like a check and balance like the courts on there leader’s powers. If there wasn’t a free press Watergate would never have happened, and other corrupt politicians would be able to get away with alot more without fear of the press swaying public opinion against them. But in Trump land, corruption doesn’t exist, Trump said so.
#3 illegal immigration – Trump land will be protected by high walls, razor wire, even land mines and free fire zones are not off the table. Any solution that prevents the horde of uneducated illegals looking to steal Trumpland workers jobs.
The downside of this strategy is there will be a number of jobs that no self-respecting Trumpland citizen would consider, like cherry, asparagus, apple, strawberry, mushroom and pepper picking. These are labor intensive jobs that are usually performed by legal and illegal immigrates. Pretty much any farm harvesting task that can’t be mechanized, produce will be in short supply.
#4 Import/Export - Any imports would be at best banned, at worse only special exceptions would be allow, for resources and products that can’t be obtained locally. On the plus side this greatly helps the work force, on the downside, products like TV’s would be more expensive that overseas competitors, not that it would matter, they can’tbe imported anyway. I wouldn’t expect a huge increase in prices though, maybe doubling, most manufacturing is highly automated with robotics, so it’s not like you adding a huge overhead by paying workersfair wages.
#5 – Energy – Trumpland has enough resources to not have torely on imported fuel, most power production would probably be coal plants, to keep campaign promises made by Trump. Trumpland would be a big contributor to greenhouse gases, not that it matters any, global warming is a myth, Trump says so, so it must be true.
No-one is stopping them, let them go!
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