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View Poll Results: Should the United States take military action if China invades Taiwan?
yes 93 43.66%
no 120 56.34%
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Old 10-05-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Do we have a Defense agreement with Taiwan then Yes because we should honor our obligations but otherwise Hell No. The whole mess in the middle East could have arguably been started by our attack on Iraq because they invaded Kuwait. But it is my understanding at the time we had no type of Defense Treaties with Kuwait. We should always make it clear if you are our ally and someone attacks we will help you, otherwise sorry.

 
Old 10-05-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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If China invades, we have no choice but to engage them.
We should simply provide Taiwan with nukes and let them take care of themselves.

As long as they are well armed with nukes, they will be safe.

Otherwise, the Chinese would accept massive casualties in a conventional war. The US would not tolerate such casualties, particularly to simply help a foreign government when the US is not directly involved.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Spewing more hate trump fantasies? Wake up! Hard to believe anyone is still running on fake news about Trump.

List Trump's historic accomplishments and then claim concern about Trump's abilities.

Trump made the generals of the industrial military complex look like fools they are.

Trump brokered a peace in the Middle east, smething no other president ever was able to accomplish

Trump made Nato members pay up, which angered Putin

Trump gave defensive missiles to Poland which angered Putin. Obama renegged on the promise to send defensive missiles to Poland because it displeased Putin.

Trump crushed Putin's economy and financing of terrorists states and incursions into Europe by establishing long sought US energy independence. Putin was held toothless by Trump

Trump was able to retrieve bodies of US vets killed in Korea

Trump renegotiated deals with China to the benefit of our farmers and economy.

Pelosi and friends made up stories about Trump staring world wars, and the media kept pushing lies, rumors and innuendos to support her Trump fantasies.

Same medical gurus now in Biden's admin said it would take a miracle to get a vaccine in less than 5 years, Trump performed a miracle according to dem medical experts

Obama said it would take a miracle to bring back jobs to America. Trump performed a miracle.

Economists now in biden admin predicted economic failure under Trump, instead Trump made these economists look like fools with historic inroads in small businesses created , created by minorities, minority household income historic highs, same for women and latinos. Made permanent the funding for black colleges. Saved the country billions of dollars via revised trade deals.

Secured the borders via agreements with Mexico , et al.

Biden has demonstrated not only ineptness, but has endangered the country's national security, allowed in terrorists, spread disease, funded Putin, China and Iran. biden is financing the global drug cartels, prostitution, human trafficking , drug proliferation and death to Americans.

biden has illegally profited from his office and cheated on his taxes, but that's okay???

biden is actually destroying the country, not any projected fantasy by repubs, not some lies or slanted interpretation. Ask the illegal aliens and terrorists roaming our country.

biden admin ended energy independence to bring us to our knees and embroil the US in the ME again.... much to the joy and profit of the generals in the military/industrial complex that eisenhower warned us about.

Biden, fauci, and their media propaganda machine suppressed life saving off label drugs to treat coivd which resulted in the death of thousands just to push a political agenda.

Pelosi surrounds the capitol with 25K+ troops to fight an invisible army while Biden defends kabul airport with 5k troops. Insanity????? surely extreme poor judgment on display.

As a biden advocate, do you still believe Obama/Biden that ISIS is the JV team?????

Trump ran a global business before taking office. the media and un-ethical democrats attempted to use any innocuous information in Trump's finances to create a crime f the highest order. They did this with his words and even projected theories of doom and failure and treated than as if they actually occurred.

Apparently an insurrection to depose Trump by the dems is low on your list of existential priorities to be prosecuted vs a novice's foray into the complex labyrinth of the finances of a global business.
Hit a nerve did I, here's the link on Trump business dealings https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex...h=543a72d4ed11
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/u...xes-china.html
https://apnews.com/article/north-ame...a4aa3c6dd01727
https://www.thedailybeast.com/china-...oting-machines

And on in on, learn to use Google if you want more info on General Milay or the revolving SecDef's that have been in office. Don't forget to collect the rent from the squatter in your head...
 
Old 10-05-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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How many military lives were lost during Trump as President? How many military fiascos happened under Trump? Did Trump ignored any advice concerning Afghanistan? Biden was supposed to be the one with “experience”, and not only ignored his military advisers, but lied that he didn’t. Every veteran I know who fought in Afghanistan or any war said the military is always the last to leave, never leave civilians behind. They are very livid with Biden.
Lets not forget our dump and run in Syria where we handed influence over to Putin and let our allies the Kurds to be slaughtered..... But the topic is a what if on Taiwan.

With the Doha agreement signed in March of last year why were Americans not in support of the US Government still in country over a year later? Four years of watching a President Lambaste the senior leadership of the military, eviscerate our Diplomatic Corp and generally **** off most of our long term allies and posters hold that up as a shining example, spare me.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We should simply provide Taiwan with nukes and let them take care of themselves.

As long as they are well armed with nukes, they will be safe.

Otherwise, the Chinese would accept massive casualties in a conventional war. The US would not tolerate such casualties, particularly to simply help a foreign government when the US is not directly involved.
What about the Cuban missile crisis?... history is important. Taiwan abandoned it's nuke program at our request back in the 70's.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Do we have a Defense agreement with Taiwan then Yes because we should honor our obligations but otherwise Hell No. The whole mess in the middle East could have arguably been started by our attack on Iraq because they invaded Kuwait. But it is my understanding at the time we had no type of Defense Treaties with Kuwait. We should always make it clear if you are our ally and someone attacks we will help you, otherwise sorry.
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content...n_alliance.pdf
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:28 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Ignoring an invasion of Taiwan will only make the eventual war with China bloodier and less certain as to outcome. It's helpful to learn from history. Ignoring Hitler when he was invading countries around him didn't make him go away in the 1930's. it made the war longer and more difficult. Ignoring Imperial Japan when they were running around the Pacific in the 1930's (including invading China) did not make them go away. It made the war with them more difficult.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I assume the reason that China hasn't taken action in the past is the threat that the US promises with Taiwan to come to their aid has stopped them from taking action...
However with the current administration in power I wouldn't be surprised they would renege on that promise.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Nothing in the Constitution says to protect Taiwans borders. Granted if China was a weak country with little military and there was oil in Taiwan, we'd go in no doubt.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Presumably, it won’t be just the US dealing with China if this happens. Australia and the UK just pretty much committed to curbing Chinese aggression as well.
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