Jon Gruden offends just about every group. Out as Raiders coach. (gay people, children)

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by dicipher

Well that sure is a cute twist. I didn't know this was a comparison between a President and a vile, amateurish coach being canned. That's one hell of a deflection. Personally, I'd rather have a respectful human being running the country and I don't care what political party they belong to. So that rules out Gruden. I didn't raise my children to make racist comments, or demean and demogogue women and gay people. If that's your cup of tea, then knock yourself out.

I guess I would prefer a person doesn’t use language like that but I can live with it if I have to. Not a big deal. If he’s good at his job and can help me I don’t see the problem. They’re just words. Depends on the venue and the audience of course. They canceled him over private emails right? Typical chicken ship conduct by the cancel crew but of course.

[dicipher]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

I guess I would prefer a person doesn’t use language like that but I can live with it if I have to. Not a big deal. If he’s good at his job and can help me I don’t see the problem. They’re just words. Depends on the venue and the audience of course. They canceled him over private emails right? Typical chicken ship conduct by the cancel crew but of course.

Uh huh, well it doesn't matter if you can live with it (you're not his employer). But you're obviously an apologist for this type of behavior. And you apparently don't believe people need to take personal responsibility for their actions

The Raiders organization and the NFL felt his conduct was detrimental to the Raiders and the league so he was terminated (a very sound business decision). Again, it doesn't matter what you think the punishment should be.

One would have to be naive to think a rank amateur that didn't understand the ramifications of these actions could possibly help anyone or be good at his job.

If Gruden doesn't like it and wants to sue, have at it. The amount of business that would have been loss by him far outweighs whatever pittance he'll receive in court (but yeah "they're just words").

Ultimately, the one person that caused Jon Gruden to be terminated is Job Gruden (even though apologists like you will never see that). And if he gets looks from people for the rest of his life and doesn't like that, too bad. There are consequences to actions but I'm sure he can find some like minded people that he can hang out with (if the shoe fits).