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Old 11-08-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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We just had 3 babies born in the family. The moms all got the vaccines.

Fingers crossed the babies remain healthy. No idea what the effects will be on them down the line.
The babies' immunity benefit from vaccinated Mom's antibodies crossing over through the Placenta.
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Old 11-08-2021, 12:53 PM
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Are you categorically stating that it does affect the patients heart health for the rest of their lives?

What is your citation?
Mayo Clinic - and yes - it's a possibility.

Usually, myocarditis goes away without permanent complications. However, severe myocarditis can permanently damage your heart muscle, possibly causing:

Heart failure. Untreated, myocarditis can damage your heart's muscle so that it can't pump blood effectively. In severe cases, myocarditis-related heart failure may require a ventricular assist device or a heart transplant.
Heart attack or stroke. If your heart's muscle is injured and can't pump blood, the blood that collects in your heart can form clots. If a clot blocks one of your heart's arteries, you can have a heart attack. If a blood clot in your heart travels to an artery leading to your brain, you can have a stroke.
Rapid or abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias). Damage to your heart muscle can cause an abnormal heart rhythm.
Sudden cardiac death. Certain serious arrhythmias can cause your heart to stop beating (sudden cardiac arrest). It's deadly if not treated immediately.


It usually does goes away without complications - but it's like playing Russian Roullette - there may be a bullet in that chamber when it's your turn! Ya feel lucky?
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Old 11-08-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle caused by some underlying disease. In the case of COVID vaccines and myocarditis, it’s caused by autoantibodies that attack the endothelial lining of the heart.

Myocarditis if mild will eventually subside. By subside, I mean the inflammation. The damage done maybe permanent, they don’t know.

Myocarditis can eventually lead to dilated cardiomyopathy and heart transplant.

IMO, there is no such thing as “mild” myocarditis.
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Old 11-08-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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The babies' immunity benefit from vaccinated Mom's antibodies crossing over through the Placenta.
This is a highly irresponsible statement.
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Old 11-08-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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This is a highly irresponsible statement.
And yours is such an odd reply.
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Old 11-08-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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And yours is such an odd reply.
You considered 1 benefit, now what about the risks?
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Old 11-08-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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Seriously? Let them eat cake. Let them start their own company. There are people who live paycheck to paycheck. They don't even have enough money to move to another state. It's not that easy.
Anything is possible you first have to decide you are doing it no matter what. Be an American not a American't.

Most people I know living paycheck to paycheck are not working too hard. 30-40 hours a week and think they are making this huge sacrifice. I worked 50 hours a week and went to college at the same time. When that was what needed to be done.
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Old 11-08-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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...IMO, there is no such thing as “mild” myocarditis.
Well, Mayo Clinic - and I'm sure others - disagree with your opinion. I know where I'm putting my trust.
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Old 11-08-2021, 01:10 PM
 
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Well, Mayo Clinic - and I'm sure others - disagree with your opinion. I know where I'm putting my trust.
When they say mild, they don’t mean “no permanent damage” just that the inflammation goes away without requiring hospitalization.

Ask them, for a mild case of myocarditis from the vaccines if they can guarantee no underlying tissue death and they will say they don’t know.
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Old 11-08-2021, 01:13 PM
 
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that is hands down the best explanation as to why it is in your interest to get covid, beat it, and live your natural life with T cell immunity, never to suffer, carry or spread it ever again. Follow the science right?
It has already been demonstrated that one does not get lifelong immunity from having been infected.

Also, herd immunity via infection is a myth. It happens to be the basis for many theories being touted by anti-vaxxers, but it doesn't work reliably. In cases where a disease is allowed to run wild it never goes away.

Vaccines, on the other hand, have the potential of making some diseases extinct. It requires a comprehensive approach. We almost beat polio with vaccines and there were a couple of other truly successful efforts.
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