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25 of 33 covid deaths in VT in September were vaccinated.
From the article. Willing to bet this was a from a nursing home or two. Also willing to bet they had more than one comorbidities. Look a lot of numbers can look bad and you can twist a lot of numbers around to prove any point you want. I stand by the question do you have a better idea on how to get passed this pandemic?
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Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine ‘breakthrough’ Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont’s elderly “have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,” he said.
From the article. Willing to bet this was a from a nursing home or two. Also willing to bet they had more than one comorbidities. Look a lot of numbers can look bad and you can twist a lot of numbers around to prove any point you want. I stand by the question do you have a better idea on how to get passed this pandemic?
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Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine ‘breakthrough’ Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont’s elderly “have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,” he said.
Wonderful news. Because the vaccine effectiveness wanes so quickly that death can result in less than a year. Sure makes the case for getting them boosters. Wouldn’t it have been nice to inform the elderly back in the spring that the vaccine doesn’t work as long as expected. Just a few years? No sir, just a few months. Please try to get boosters in the fall of 2021 if they are approved by the FDA under emergency approval.
Sure thing. We know, science evolves, or nobody knew this or that 8 months ago. Confidence in public health, politicians and “the government “ lowers by the day. How can anyone think that the covid response is getting better as we learn more about covid?
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Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine ‘breakthrough’ Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont’s elderly “have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,” he said.
Wonderful news. Because the vaccine effectiveness wanes so quickly that death can result in less than a year. Sure makes the case for getting them boosters. Wouldn’t it have been nice to inform the elderly back in the spring that the vaccine doesn’t work as long as expected. Just a few years? No sir, just a few months. Please try to get boosters in the fall of 2021 if they are approved by the FDA under emergency approval.
Sure thing. We know, science evolves, or nobody knew this or that 8 months ago. Confidence in public health, politicians and “the government “ lowers by the day. How can anyone think that the covid response is getting better as we learn more about covid?
What is your solution? So far all you have done is complain at how it is useless to end it. Yet you have no suggestions as to how to end it.
Perhaps you should look at it over time, rather than a single data point.
Infection rate:
"Delta wave to date (July 1 - Dec. 1) 1982 8600 4.3x" - meaning unvaccinated, over a lengthy period of time (rather than one shorter period) were 4.3x more likely to be infected.
Death rate:
"Delta wave to date (July 1 - Dec. 1) 19.5 31.4 1.6x" - meaning unvaccinated, over a lengthy period of time (rather than one shorter period) were 1.6 times as likely to die.
"The rate of deaths between unvaccinated and vaccinated Vermonters has varied widely, from unvaccinated people being seven times more likely to die one week, to it appearing that vaccinated Vermonters were slightly more likely to die in others — but each week has only a handful of deaths to analyze."
Small numbers leads to a statistical fallacy known as the law of small numbers. You should really look it up before posting more examples based on comparatively small studies or small data sets.
From the article. Willing to bet this was a from a nursing home or two. Also willing to bet they had more than one comorbidities. Look a lot of numbers can look bad and you can twist a lot of numbers around to prove any point you want. I stand by the question do you have a better idea on how to get passed this pandemic?
My memory is good enough to remember the claims that these vulnerable people would be protected from death by the vaccines, when they were first rolled out. Initially only members of these vulnerable groups were allowed to get the vaccine. Now when vaccinated people die the state is emphasizing aspects that made them more vulnerable, in a complete reversal of the narrative earlier. If the vaccine doesn't stop these people from dying, it doesn't stop others from getting it, it doesn't stop people from spreading it, then it's time to admit they're not working.
I would suggest we need our scientists to go back to the drawing board to figure out something different. The vaccines are not getting us out of this, and the vaccine mandates are only adding to making this too much of a political issue.
Perhaps you should look at it over time, rather than a single data point.
Infection rate:
"Delta wave to date (July 1 - Dec. 1) 1982 8600 4.3x" - meaning unvaccinated, over a lengthy period of time (rather than one shorter period) were 4.3x more likely to be infected.
Death rate:
"Delta wave to date (July 1 - Dec. 1) 19.5 31.4 1.6x" - meaning unvaccinated, over a lengthy period of time (rather than one shorter period) were 1.6 times as likely to die.
"The rate of deaths between unvaccinated and vaccinated Vermonters has varied widely, from unvaccinated people being seven times more likely to die one week, to it appearing that vaccinated Vermonters were slightly more likely to die in others — but each week has only a handful of deaths to analyze."
Small numbers leads to a statistical fallacy known as the law of small numbers. You should really look it up before posting more examples based on comparatively small studies or small data sets.
In short, the state's numbers don't match the school district numbers for reported cases. Something is going on and the state hasn't offered any explanations that make much sense.
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