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Old 12-20-2021, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Yes, if there is voter fraud or voter suppression from either side.

And this goes for the media, the supposed “Guardians” of our Democracy, as well as big tech AGAIN CONTROLS the message and the equal, unbiased flow of information.

To the point where the media and big tech totally AND completely controlled the flow of all factual information to the American people… To the point of supporting AND spreading false information, while presenting this false information as the truth, while completely suppressing any AND all information that would have caused their choice of candidate from winning.

As for Facebook, Twitter and other social media sources, these outlets shouldn’t be allowed to censor or lock-out any candidate or their message…. While allowing the Iranian Ayatollahs or the Taliban terrorists free and uncensored access to the same sites.

And this doesn’t matter if the person(s) running for office is from the Left or Right. Today, the Left completely controls the flow of information TODAY, but that can change at some point where the Right controls the messaging TOMORROW.

Can our Democracy be saved? Yes, but it will take some work from ALL us to protect our Democracy and our Republic, both today and for tomorrow.
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If agree with this article. The GOP, under Trump, has become an authoritarian party - one not willing to abide by majority rule if it contradicts its whims. Since this is America, where traditionally the parties switch power pretty regularly, sooner or later the GOP will be in power again. This will happen sooner rather than later probably. When it does, democracy as we know it will be over in America.
authoritarian party... you mean like mask MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination papers MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like health ins MANDATES from obozo's/bidens party???




the left has ALWAYS been the party of authoritarianism
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Wanna know when the end of democracy will really come?, when the left succeed in indoctrinating enough to believe it's time to end the constitution as irredeemable and call for a new democratic socialist government.

It happened in Venezuela, democracy was used to end democracy.

quote: the American left should work toward abolishing the Constitution someday—either for a new document or a new democratic order

https://newrepublic.com/article/1598...-supreme-court


quote : Dozens of students at the University of Florida said the U.S. Constitution should be abolished, and even signed a petition

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-s...d-be-abolished


quote: Progressives are ready to edit the Constitution

https://news.yahoo.com/progressives-...105511558.html
In any case - there’s enough republicans not to ever let that happen along with the judicial system.
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:06 PM
 
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I know we have militias, always have. We have protestors from all over. On Jan 6th - the Proud Boys and QAnon and a few others showed their ugly heads with one agenda, to stop the seating of the new elected POTUS. The article below believes the next election not given to the Republicans, will be massive and much more organized. Is it possible or they just throwing out propaganda? What say you ?

Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024


https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/31/...4-1660953.html
Hopefully so. As Pinochet said, democracy is the breeding ground of communism, He also said sometimes democracy must be bathed in blood. Democrats STOLE an election via a coup and we ALLOWED it to happen and now have an illegitimate and illegal regime in DC. So I really don't care if it happens I hope it does if this is the road the left wants to go down then I am ready to defend my country from its illegal government.
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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authoritarian party... you mean like mask MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination papers MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like health ins MANDATES from obozo's/bidens party???




the left has ALWAYS been the party of authoritarianism
Pandemics really have nothing to do with politics. It’s about health. Changes zero in laws. It’s about preservation of peoples lives and it follows world wide practices. Health - politics - life or death ?
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Hopefully so. As Pinochet said, democracy is the breeding ground of communism, He also said sometimes democracy must be bathed in blood. Democrats STOLE an election via a coup and we ALLOWED it to happen and now have an illegitimate and illegal regime in DC. So I really don't care if it happens I hope it does if this is the road the left wants to go down then I am ready to defend my country from its illegal government.
Thanks for your post, how many you think will actually stand with you in your area, let’s say?
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:17 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Your whataboutism is showing, and an irrelevant parallel besides.

BLM and Antifa didn't even bother to storm city halls, let alone the US Capitol and least of all to prevent certification of a major election. Overturning an election is a MUCH more serious matter than having hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property burn (especially if the insurance companies will cover it). Seriously, would you rather have a lot of businesses burn down or lose your right to a meaningful vote?

These "handful" of wackos are indeed far right. Look up Umberto Eco's Fourteen Points of Fascism. They qualify for most of those points. Besides, if the military and law enforcement aren't physicially stopping them to the extent that they stop ANTIFA and BLM, then it's fair to say there a bias favoring the Right Wing.

Also, if it had been BLM and ANTIFA marching on the Capitol if a Republican became president, they're would have been blood on the streets - with little to none on even the bottom steps of the Capitol. Not to mention armored personnel carriers spewing tear gas and live ammo.
Well said, and so true.
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:17 PM
 
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Thanks for your post, how many you think will actually stand with you in your area, let’s say?
Take my county it has 24k people. I would say AT LEAST 15-18k of those own guns. MAYBE 5k would actually take up arms....I am not much of a people person, I don't make friends real easy, I am too busy working on college and raising my kids and running a small business, I think MAYBE nationwide you might get 1 million people to take up arms but who knows, I could be wrong. I think the VAST majority of people are armchair warriors who talk a lot but have WAY too much too lose to even really think about taking up arms, for most as long as they have food on the table, AC to keep them cold and Heat to keep them cool, they won't do anything. I have all of that but I am just made differently, I don't see that I have a lot to lose so. Will I start something? No. Would I join an army taking our nation back? Certainly would love to.

On another note that author of that article obviously needs to read the Declaration of Independence it CLEARLY states the people have the right to alter or abolish our government.
https://www.learnliberty.org/blog/th...he-government/
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:20 PM
 
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I agree with this article. The GOP, under Trump, has become an authoritarian party - one not willing to abide by majority rule if it contradicts its whims. Since this is America, where traditionally the parties switch power pretty regularly, sooner or later the GOP will be in power again. This will happen sooner rather than later probably. When it does, democracy as we know it will be over in America.
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authoritarian party... you mean like mask MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like vaccination papers MANDATES from bidens party???


you mean like health ins MANDATES from obozo's/bidens party???




the left has ALWAYS been the party of authoritarianism
Mask and vaccine mandates? You mean like those George Washington mandated on the continental Army? Silly, silly, silly. Protecting a population from a pandemic isn’t tyranny.
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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I know we have militias, always have. We have protestors from all over. On Jan 6th - the Proud Boys and QAnon and a few others showed their ugly heads with one agenda, to stop the seating of the new elected POTUS. The article below believes the next election not given to the Republicans, will be massive and much more organized. Is it possible or they just throwing out propaganda? What say you ?

Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024


https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/31/...4-1660953.html
It already ended. 11 months ago today. When a shill with an oatmeal filled cranium was installed in the White House.
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