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Old 01-15-2022, 09:15 AM
 
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But I realize that anti vaxxers are already ready to claim that the vaccines are actually causing this.
well?

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This study shows that after three months the vaccine effectiveness of Pfizer & Moderna against Omicron is actually negative. Pfizer customers are 76.5% more likely and Moderna customers are 39.3% more likely to be infected than unvaxxed people. https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/....full.pdf+html

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Old 01-15-2022, 09:17 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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The NY Times and Bloomberg don't agree with you. Both have recently published articles telling how hospitals and ICU's across the country are being pushed to the brink, mainly by unvaccinated people filling them up. There are plenty of anecdotes about people not being able to get their chemo treatments and life-saving surgeries in their particular hospitals. I think it is real.
That's the difference between what the data says, and how the media presents it.

Yes, the ICU's are full. But, hospitalization from Covid-19 is extremely rare, according to data from the CDC, which I provided.
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Old 01-15-2022, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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You should tell your sister that her smartphone will do way more to track her every move than anything else!

I'll never understand where that conspiracy theory every came from.
She believes that 5G towers are used with the injected tracking devices to follow our every move, or at least she pretends to believe it. Meanwhile she would not give up her smartphone if she had positive proof, she was being tracked with it.

Who really cares where all 300-400 million of us are at any point?
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Old 01-15-2022, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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...you do realize that millions of people...that have not been vaccinated....can say the same thing
I consider that to be excellent news since I believe people should make their own choice.

For me, getting vaccinated appeared to be my best option since I work at high schools where kids don't socially-distance except occasionally (when they are ordered to). Two of my 4 active grandsons also live with me, and I am 68 years old.
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Old 01-16-2022, 03:12 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I posted this article the other day. Found it very interesting.
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Old 01-16-2022, 03:18 AM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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Is it better than to not get vaccinated? Vaccinated will make you a little sick but not by a lot. Recovering is the key.
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Old 01-16-2022, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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IF vaccinated people are more likely to get a variant, wouldn't that lend credence to the idea that the COVID vaccines actually weaken one's immune system?
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Old 01-16-2022, 05:19 AM
 
Location: NYC
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IF vaccinated people are more likely to get a variant, wouldn't that lend credence to the idea that the COVID vaccines actually weaken one's immune system?
Yup. I think so anyway. Makes sense why the cases here in NYC exploded and the majority of people are vaccinated.
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Old 01-16-2022, 05:43 AM
 
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Maybe it's becoming clear the vaccine retards your normal immune system responses?
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Old 01-16-2022, 06:49 AM
 
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The NY Times and Bloomberg don't agree with you. Both have recently published articles telling how hospitals and ICU's across the country are being pushed to the brink, mainly by unvaccinated people filling them up. There are plenty of anecdotes about people not being able to get their chemo treatments and life-saving surgeries in their particular hospitals. I think it is real.

Chemo and surgeries don't take place in the ER or ICU. Other then general staff shortages caused by firing the unvaxed, this claim doesn't make sense.
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